(October 28, 2016 at 11:43 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(October 27, 2016 at 9:25 pm)bennyboy Wrote: If there's a conflict of interest AND a person cannot produce reproducible evidence, their testimony is garbage. If a scientist says he produce cold fusion, he has a personal motivation in being the guy to produce cold fusion. If he says, ". . . but my data got lost in a lab fire," then you'll say. . . okay either tell us how to do it, do it again with better documentation, or stop wasting our time.
As for the murder trial. . . nobody in this thread is talking about "producing evidence." We're talking about anecdotes. . . the use of personal testimony as evidence. When a criminal says, "Eh. . . that knife ain't mine. . . I think I saw some dude. . . yeah, that's it, I saw some dude walking by here a minute ago it must be his. . ." he has a personal interest in the outcome AND he can't produce evidence supporting his anecdote. His word is garbage-- complete, absolute zero value.
So if a Christian starts telling me that God is real, I'll ask if they have a personal motivation in making me believe so. The answer, pretty obviously, is yes. Then I'll ask for other evidence supporting their claim that God is real-- miracles caught on camera, for example. And when they can't provide it, I'll say the same thing I would say to the scientist: "I think you have a personal motivation, and you don't have evidence, so I'm not really going to entertain your claim at this time. Come back when you have something more persuasive."
I do think that your take on things, provides an interesting twist on the Burden of Proof.
Concerning your lab fire, and the cold fusion machine. Do you think that there is a difference, between demonstrating, that cold fusion was achieved, and that one know's how to produce cold fusion (or can do it again)?
In terms of fostering a persuasive argument, yes. It does matter.
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Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.