A quick word on "Overwhelmingly Negative Influences"

[Drich]

Meh. I'm not likely to be convinced that if any of the popular members here said similar shit that Drich says, but said it about undesirables, anyone (apart from maybe CL) would bat an eye. The problem people have with Drich is that he says it directly to members of the forum who are popular. Well, that and he says a lot of shit that doesn't make any sense. Any one of us could (and lots likely have) say any old fucked up thing to Drich and it would be business as usual. Drich could say, "Fuck a goat, you stupid slut." to one of our female members and the white knights would rain down from the proverbial heavens. I could say, "Drich, I hope a goat rapes you in the bum." and you'd be lying if you said you would decry my behavior in anywhere near a similar way. Why? Because you don't like Drich. It's a bias. It can be completely natural or even morally correct, but it's still a bias. To deny it just plain silly.

Neither fully disagree nor full agree. But overall, Drich says nasty shit on a regular basis, rationalizes them, acts like a victim in the process, is condescending, and has a Messianic complex, thinking he's God's gift to all. So it's a combination of many uglies that Drich displays here. And I've yet to note such degree of uglies from any of the popular members here. Maybe that's why they're popular.

or...

Maybe because they are popular.. the 'uglies' are not ugly.

For example an atheist would point out God is a monster because he order the death of babies in All of the OT..
In return a theist may point out that abortion has killed over 1.5 billion since Roe v wade. (1973)

The act of taking an infant's life is the same, but because one form of taking life is popular. Meaning it is fine that we kill babies by the billions not knowing if we are killing they guy who invents free renewable clean energy for everyone or if we are killing a hitler, And somehow a good thing.. Meanwhile God ordering the death of a race of 'hitlers' is a bad thing.

Again I think the point Shelby is making how you view an ugly is based on what you perceive is the popular view.

The act of killing babies is not up for debate as both sides can find reason to do it. What is up for debate is the legitimacy that one side or the other has the authority to make that call.