On Moral Authorities

[The Grand Nudger]

PRECISELY! Do you think there is a fundamental difference between "Help and avoid harm" and "Do good and avoid evil"? I don't think so.
We may disagree about what is helpful and what is harmful (or even the "what" we are helping or harming!), but we don't disagree that truly helpful things are good and truly harmful things are bad. The more helpful things in life, the better life is. The more harmful things in life, the worse life is.

Golly gee...you mean all these posts in the interim were pedantic wastes of time to agree with what I told you the first go round?  I may have said that the first go round as well, lol.

Compare

There's no point, since you're asking me to compare to a subject which I do not use as a foundation of morality, and which does not provide consistent results -to- my foundation of morality.  But since you insists...I'll just reiterate what I've already said.

We may disagree about what is leads to human happiness and what leads away from human happiness (or even in what happiness consists!), but we don't disagree that things that truly lead to human happiness are good and things

We do disagree.

that truly lead away from human happiness are bad.

I can think of plenty of things that lead away from human happiness that -aren't- bad things.  The trumpsters would have been heartbroken had their boy lost (and they're just so very happy that he won).  

The closer we lead ourselves to human happiness, the better life is. The further away from human happiness we lead ourselves, the worse life is.
You are using different words to convey the same idea. But if you'd prefer to be your own category, have a ball!

I'm not, but you can't accept that I'm not..because you'd rather be right than accept our simple, fundamental difference in this regard. I do not consider help to be good because it leads to human happiness, and I do not consider harm to be bad because it -doesn't- lead to human happiness.

I don;t think that this is so, because I allow for what I consider to be a trivially easy to demonstrate state of being where doing bad things can easily lead to human happiness, and where doing good things can lead to human suffering. Similarly, where help can lead to misery, and where harm can lead to happiness.