RE: On Moral Authorities
November 16, 2016 at 10:18 am
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2016 at 10:20 am by FallentoReason.)
(November 16, 2016 at 9:57 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(November 16, 2016 at 9:36 am)FallentoReason Wrote: You are being thick. That isn't a response to an argument in favour of your position. It's the fucking conclusion, Jesus Christ.
You are thick.
It's a false dichotomy because it can be answered with "neither because gods don't exist". It's not fucking rocket science. That isn't a position I'm arguing for that's just a fact regarding what a false dichotomy is.
I cannot believe you're still insisting. Are you seriously not seeing it yet? It's like offering an atheistic argument against god and then answering your own argument by saying 'my argument is false, because it mentions god which doesn't exist'. You're out of your mind.
Quote:Quote:That makes it a false dichotomy. A true dichotomy contains the word "not".(November 16, 2016 at 9:36 am)FallentoReason Wrote: The negation creates nothing more than a mutually exclusive scenario, which *is* currently the case.
Talk about fucking doubling down when you're wrong about something. Look you clearly don't know what a false dichotomy is. If you can answer with "neither" it's a false dichotomy.
Will you stop! The dilemma isn't meant for you. Stop. Stop. Stop.
Quote:Quote: With a true dichotomy there is no third option.(November 16, 2016 at 9:36 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Which is what the theist wants to say regarding Euthyphro's Dilemma. Just stop, for fuck's sake.
You stop. There is a third option "Neither because there are no gods",
That's the bloody conclusion. Stop.
Quote: therefore it's false, therefore you're wrong.
Not even close.
Quote:I don't give a fuck what a theist wants to say (and yet you do, and yet you call me a theist because you can't handle your own bullshit)
It's called philosophy - understanding both positions of an argument. Clearly you do well, because you keep defending the theist impeccably.
Quote: that's not what you said. The whole point is the theist asserts a false dichtomy
This is just too embarrassing. Plato wasn't religious. The argument isn't for religion. Stop defending what you don't believe in.
Quote:because they mistakingly assume that there is a god. It can be answered with "neither".
This is the conclusion. Please stop.
Quote:Wikipedia Wrote:"Is what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?" Ever since Plato's original discussion, this question has presented a problem for some theists, though others have thought it a false dilemma, and it continues to be an object of theological and philosophical discussion today.
My bold.
No shit. I've already explained how theists would explain it's a false dilemma.
Quote:Quote:It's not a position. It's a fact that if a dichotomy can be answered coherently with "neither" then it's false.(November 16, 2016 at 9:36 am)FallentoReason Wrote: ~ The Theistic Apologies of Ham the Athiest
Okay. I'm done with you. You are an utter utter moron. If you think giving you the definition of a false dichotomy to demonstrate how you're wrong about it being a false dichotomy equates to apologetics because you're too intellectually dishonest to stop double-downing on your wrongness when you're wrong then you can just fuck off you utter utter moron.
This isn't about me. It's about you failing to recognise an atheistic argument when it repeatedly slaps you in the face. Stop embarrassing yourself. It's disgraceful.
Quote:Quote:You have a position. Your position is denying that a false dichotomy is a false dichotomy. And the dichotomy itself has no relevance to your incoherent failed hypothetical in the OP.(November 16, 2016 at 9:36 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Just stop. Your ability to miserably and repeatedly fail to grasp an argument was an interesting spectacle the first time, but now it's just annoying.
Such a tosser. Telling me to stop. Just because you can't handle being wrong. I will stop but only because you're not worth the effort. Bye-bye. Welcome to my ignore list.
Go ahead. I'm only interested in philosophy, thanks.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle