On Moral Authorities

[theologian]

But, does God say rape is good? To the contrary, God says love your neighbor.

Now, what's wrong basing morality from God Whom is the Perfect Being? Or, it is just that atheism are biased against Him? Any other reason aside from being biased? For, if morality is based from God's will, then it will just be arbitrary according to you, as if God is like human whose will may be arbitrary.

If you will not consider God in your morality, then your morality is subjective. If your morality is subjective, then you don't have the right to be protected based from your subjective opinion, as that is equal to imposing one's opinion to others. Hence, if you are used as a fish bait, you cannot appeal to your subjective morality to be saved from being used. That is just your opinion, if God will not be considered.

You don't know what God says. You read books, and people tell you things. Rape, in the bible, is often nothing more than a property crime. And sometimes God simply allowed people to do it to the survivors of cities his "people" pillaged. Slavery is also permitted.

Yes, my morality is subjective. But I'm not imposing my opinion on anyone. I own my morality as subjective. I make arguments as to why my morality is the way it is. If I'm used as fish bait, it doesn't much matter what my opinion of it is, does it? Morality doesn't save you from things happening to you. I think murder is wrong, but I can still be murdered.

Your morality is also subjective; it is god's opinion. You have chosen that reference point. I use my opinion instead.

We know what God says through Jesus Whom is True God and True Man and through the Church he has founded, the Catholic Church.

The Bible, just as it was declared to be the Word of God by the Church, must be interpreted by the Church to know its true meaning. You appeal to the Old Testament, and to interpret the Old Testament, one must interpret it in the light of Christ. Hence, one cannot rely on the Old Testament alone. The Old Testament is like topics for first grader. If teach justice first. It is fulfilled by Christ Whom paid for what we can't pay by ourselves. That is a great act of mercy.

So, in Christ, we can see that justice and mercy are one in love.

Thus, invalidating my reasoning here that God is the basis of morality by the use of Old Testament and its improper reading is improper.

Thus, my morality, is not stemming from me, nor terminating from other humans. Hence, it is not subjective.

If morality is not just a subjective opinion, then you cannot be used as a fish bait lawfully. Thus, I was not talking about avoiding murder absolutely, but avoiding murder reasonably. Atheists claim to be reasonable. However, in matters of morality, they can't be reasonable. As, no subjective opinion can be reasonable.

God's opinion, on the other hand, matters. For, He, the matter around us, and all other objective things, are created by His mind.

Also, divine commandment morality is clearly not objective anyway.

Is it moral to walk into a town and kill everyone there, including all the children?

It depends on whether the correct voice in your head told you to. If it did, it's moral. If it didn't, it's immoral. So it's not objectively moral or immoral.

That is confusing Divine Commandment per se, with every claim that can be made. However, one can know whether it is from God through the Church.

If yes, the fact that he is God is irrelevant. He just happens to want us to do what we do anyway. He's like an expert analyst or something, nothing more.

If no, then you are compromising the wellbeing of people in order to please this God.

That is a false dichotomy. For the first horn ignores the truth that wellbeing of people is perfectly known to God, as He is their Creator. The second horn on the other hand cannot be true, considering God is Infinitely Good. But, every dilemma must at least have one true horn to be true. Thus, it is a false dilemma.