(December 8, 2016 at 2:28 pm)Shell B Wrote: You can't just say anything and then say "Therefore, *the conclusion I really wanted to reach.* That's not logical. That's not how this works. Just because he thinks you're a twat doesn't mean he hopes you stay a twat or isn't trying in his own way to unmake you a twat.
The logic is sound, assuming that he's smart enough to know that "his own way" isn't likely to sway anyone, and I think that's a reasonable assumption. He's not stupid.
Quote:But you expect people to be nice to you just because you don't share the same opinion and they should be trying to change your mind?
If their goal is truly to change my mind, and they're smart enough to know that insulting me will probably prevent the desired change (and most people are that smart), then yes, I would expect such person to be nice. If they're instead insulting, then they either don't understand that insults generally don't win converts (unlikely), or don't really care about changing my mind.
Quote:You're not the kind of person who changes his mind.
I change my mind. For example, in the past year, my mind has changed significantly on wealth inequality (I'm more in favor of taxing the hell out of the wealthy). That didn't come about from people insulting me.
Quote:Even your username is indicative of how you feel about yourself. There's no way you would change your mind. The better way to go about getting what we want? Making sure other people see you for what you are–someone who knows his opinion is less than moral, so tries to claim everyone shares it to make the immoral seem commonplace enough that you're forgiven. You're not. It really isn't as common as you wish.
Caring about my children more than other people's is very common, and as noted, opposing refugees is just an extension of that. And considering this past election, there are a lot of people like me. Calling us deplorables is part of why you lost, but you apparently haven't learned your lesson.
