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Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist?
RE: Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist?
Quote:Alpha Male: I mean that I can't evaluate your conclusion without knowing how you define all powerful. So, why don't you just define it?


Quote:Mr. Greene: As we've spelled out; Omnipotence is an impossibility at the most fundamental level.

For the record;
omnipotent
adjective UK /ɒmˈnɪp.ə.tənt/ US /ɑːmˈnɪp.ə.t̬ənt/ formal

having unlimited power and able to do anything.

I accept that omnipotent means:"Can do anything which is not logically impossible". For example, a planar square which is curved is impossible, (a round square cannot exist by definition). So an omnipotent being could not make a round square. No problem.

What I object to is that in religious sermons, preachers claim that "God" is all powerful. Take this website as another example :-

Quote:"Discover God"
"God is all powerful"


http://www.discovergod.com/character02.html

It says: "God is all powerful so He can help you with anything ".

The concept of all powerful is not qualified in that website as limited in power. But if I wanted to make a square circle, "God" couldn't help me.

I do not suppose that you will hear a preacher in the pulpit claim: "Our Lord God is almighty, except for things which are not logically possible". No, they leave it at: "Our Lord God is almighty", thus misleading unsceptical people astray. It's dishonesty by omission, in my opinion.
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RE: Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist? - by Magilla - December 15, 2016 at 9:37 pm

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