Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist?

[RozKek]

I wonder where the fuck they came with that god is in another dimension and all that shit, was it written in the bible? Is it logical to make up loads of shit just to keep your beliefs intact?

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So basically... god created all of us so that while many of us suffer and live in misery, some others in our group can praise the glory of his creation? [1] So he created us to worship him.... [2] and then let's many of us suffer... [3] and you're completely okay with chalking all of this up to 'god's plan?' [4]

1) No. God created all of us so that even those who suffer and live in misery can share in God's life and joy, even in the midst of that suffering and misery. Christians suffer too, and they praise the glory of his creation because his creation includes the resurrection and renewal of all things, and not merely this age which is "passing away".

2) He created us to share in his life, not bow before him. Sharing the divinity causes you to kneel in humility, rather than kneeling causes you to share in the divinity.

3) I am pretty sure everyone suffers, and some more than others. He let himself suffer, and united his suffering to all of ours. His divinity can transform my suffering and sublimate it, because he suffered it right there with me. In this way, I don't put up with it in anticipation of going to heaven. Instead, heaven itself has come to me in my suffering. The suffering remains real, but it is suffered WITH the divinity itself. That is a game changer for the poor and the oppressed and the outcast.

4) It certainly makes it easier knowing that God himself has gone through all of it with us.

@Ignorant

Does he suffer with the ones that he pretermined will go to hell?

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Does he burn in hell with them for eternities? Is it just to doom someone to eternal burning and suffering?

just gonna quote meself C: