RE: "God doesn't Exist"- Claim or Conclusion
December 21, 2016 at 3:40 pm
(This post was last modified: December 21, 2016 at 3:45 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
(December 21, 2016 at 1:51 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Neither mathematics nor logic makes existential claims. When metaphysical claims are also existential claims they are therefore relevant to the universe and nature and therefore scientific and therefore should be testable and falsifiable....Fair enough if the claim is that God exists in such a way that he doesn't affect the natural universe at all.
It depends on whether you consider mathematics and logic merely descriptive or in some way prescriptive. You are making a metaphysical claim. What empirical evidence do you have to support your claim that mathematics and logic do not positively impose limits on natural world and/or inform what is possible?
(December 21, 2016 at 11:55 am)SteveII Wrote: Excuse me for inferring from the usual level of animosity on this site against anyone who believes in God that it is not a matter of "you are wrong/stupid/brainwashed/clueless/liars...". While there are exceptions, this is the prevailing attitude here. In my opinion, your mild " 1. I do not know of sufficient evidence to justify belief in God. 2. Therefore I do not believe in God. " does not justify the animosity, so rather than just think that many of you just lack character, I reasoned that many of you believe with near certainty that you are right and I am wrong.
Spot on, brother.
