(December 29, 2016 at 4:47 pm)robvalue Wrote: Basically, if it's possible to know what I'll do before I do it, I'm entirely predictable. If so, I have only one course of action I can take. [1] Saying I could have done other things is like saying a domino could have fallen any direction. Sure, it could have, if it would have been hit from another side. But it wasn't, and it never could have been, if things weren't set up that way. [2]
The pure idiocy of God doing any of this is another subject entirely, which is rarely addressed. [3]
It's fucking drivel to say God can predict me even though I'm unpredictable. [4] If you're going to just make nonsense statements like that, there's no point even pretending any logic is being applied at any stage.
I've been away for a week, and I was going to respond to a post you made a while back (I still might), but maybe its better for the thread if I just jump in here:
1) No, you have only one course of action you will take. If that future course of action includes your choosing it, then you will certainly choose only that course of action. You are fated to CHOOSE! =)
2) Right. Given different conditions, a domino will fall according to those conditions. If it is known that you will do something WITHOUT choosing it, then you will certainly do that something without choosing it. If it is known that you will do something THROUGH choosing it, then you will certainly do that something THROUGH your choice!
3) It is indeed a different subject, but also related. God knows the things we "will" do because he is the one creating us as doing them.
4) Right. If you are a fundamentally unpredictable thing, then god could only "predict" you in an equivocal manner.
The fundamental point I made before, which I was going to make about your picking a number 1-10, is that, if you allow that choice is contained in a foreknown act, then there is no contradiction between foreknowledge and choice. If I infallibly know that you will choose number 2, then you will absolutely and certainly CHOOSE number 2. You can't NOT choose it.
