(January 29, 2017 at 3:08 am)Gestas Wrote:(January 29, 2017 at 3:05 am)Alex K Wrote: My point is that the question is not sensible either way.
I'd be interested in your reasons why. Tell me why the question is not sensible assuming space-time and tell me why the question is not sensible assuming that time is independent of the natural world.
EDIT: Please don't tell me that all you had in mind was arguing over semantics...
Not beyond what is necessary to have a sensible discussion. Now, if you don't assume time pre-existing, the words"create", "become" etc. are all devoid of meaning. If you assume time pre-existing, you assume something that to our current knowledge of physics is so inextricably interwoven with matter and has its own dynamics by virtue of General Relativity that it does not qualify as "nothing".
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition