RE: A question to all atheists!
January 29, 2017 at 1:34 pm
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2017 at 1:36 pm by Gestas.)
(January 29, 2017 at 12:59 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(January 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm)Gestas Wrote: There's nothing illogical about the Earth revolving around the Sun though.
There is from the perspective of someone who cannot observe that, which is rather akin to our current perspective with regards the origin of the Universe.
(January 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm)Gestas Wrote: And the speed, trajectory, etc., of how the Earth revolves around the Sun is perfectly logical in that we can predict where the Earth will be in X amount of time. If it behaved in an irrational way then it'd be impossible to predict where it came from or where it will be going.
Correct. And if the Universe had an irrational beginning, it would be impossible to predict where it came from or where it will be going.
(January 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm)Gestas Wrote: Can you give me one example of a phenomenon in science that behaves "illogically" (besides scientists themselves)? Please note that illogically is not the same as counter-intuitively or oddly.
At least you acknowledge that important distinction, but I'm not going to shoulder your burden of proof. Recall that I have never said that the Universe behaves illogically; merely that what you expect to be logical behaviour may be missing some crucial data.
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(January 29, 2017 at 1:00 pm)robvalue Wrote: Ah, I get what he was trying to do. It was supposed to be a reductio ad absurdum. But it was actually just an argument from ignorance/incredulity. His task, should he choose to accept it, is to learn the difference. The former is much better suited to abstract systems, and not to extrapolating into the total unknown.
I think you dided 1 of dem strawmans.