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The sad future of the democratic party
RE: The sad future of the democratic party
(February 13, 2017 at 11:45 am)pool the great Wrote:
(February 11, 2017 at 7:46 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I think the time has passed though, where minorities are content or willing to treat racism and bigotry like some abstract concept that has no originator or purveyor.

It is hard to tell a community that continues to be oppressed and victimized that it has to keep being nice and reverent to its oppressors in order to make change.

Okay, so I'm probably coming from a place of ignorance but is it really true that white people are somehow oppressing black people? How does that work..? Don't blacks have the same rights as whites? Add to that more diversity type of privileges.. So I'm just asking because it just doesn't add up.

I don't think there is any codified oppression like there used to be, but there is still stereotyping that goes on. Judges tend to give harsher sentences to blacks for example and we should not ignore this. You know there is a "but" coming...

But I think the crowd that just yells "racist" at this are really missing a whole bunch of complexity and in the end are not going to help all that much. Racism is a human failing and will disappear from society at the same time theft does... never.

So how do minorities live with racism? It's already known that Asian Americans are the most privileged race in the USA. This is from a recent PEW research poll. 

Quote:Asian Americans are the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the U.S, with Asians now making up the largest share of recent immigrants. A Pew Research survey finds Asian Americans are more satisfied than the general public with their lives, finances and the direction of the country, and they place a greater value on marriage, parenthood, hard work and career success.


So how does this fact line up with the claim that the problem facing the African American community is racism above all else? It doesn't. Apparently, the "fact" that the USA is 100% racist doesn't slow the Asian community down. 

Sociologists have known for a long time that the two main factors affecting the success of any group of people is placing great value on education and maintaining a solid family environment. Asian culture values those things more than other cultures and it shows up in research as above. This is not to say that racism is OK and causes no problems, but to put ALL the emphasis on racism while ignoring the cultural failure that has 73% of blacks born out of wedlock  and valuing education less than any other race is not doing anyone a favor. Certainly not the African Americans.

The other thing I would mention is pretty obvious if you think about it. African Americans are not going to be saved by the government and certainly not by white people. There won't be any reparations (they wouldn't fix the problems anyway) and affirmative action has been around long enough (40+ years) to prove that it's benefits never met with expectations. (Though I still support affirmative action) The solution (whatever it is) will have to come from the African American community itself.

Here's a black guy with some suggestions. I don't agree with everything he says, but I think he's on a much better track than those who naively think that if white people can just stop being racist, black peoples problems will disappear.



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The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 1:22 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 1:59 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 6, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by brewer - February 6, 2017 at 11:25 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 7, 2017 at 12:27 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by brewer - February 7, 2017 at 10:56 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 7, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 6, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 6, 2017 at 8:08 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 6, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 6, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 6, 2017 at 2:40 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 6, 2017 at 2:44 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Divinity - February 6, 2017 at 3:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DarkerEnergy - February 6, 2017 at 6:25 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Jackalope - February 6, 2017 at 8:36 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 6, 2017 at 8:41 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 6, 2017 at 3:50 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 6, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by CapnAwesome - February 7, 2017 at 3:23 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crossless1 - February 7, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 7, 2017 at 12:02 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Whateverist - February 7, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 7, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 7, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 8, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by GUBU - February 8, 2017 at 5:36 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 11:52 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by noname - February 9, 2017 at 4:05 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 9, 2017 at 7:28 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 8, 2017 at 4:19 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by noname - February 8, 2017 at 7:21 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by noname - February 9, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 6:39 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 4:58 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 9, 2017 at 5:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 6:49 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 9, 2017 at 8:45 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Kosh - February 10, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 10, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Kosh - February 10, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Aroura - February 10, 2017 at 6:23 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 10, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 10, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 11, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 6:39 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 11, 2017 at 6:50 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 9, 2017 at 7:10 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 7:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 7:11 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 9, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 10, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by GUBU - February 13, 2017 at 6:20 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 13, 2017 at 10:32 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by GUBU - February 15, 2017 at 7:57 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 10, 2017 at 3:31 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Regina - February 10, 2017 at 6:49 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 10, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Regina - February 10, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 10, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 12:03 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 11, 2017 at 12:31 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by DLJ - February 11, 2017 at 12:42 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 10:20 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 11, 2017 at 1:31 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by vorlon13 - February 11, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Kosh - February 12, 2017 at 11:48 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by ReptilianPeon - February 11, 2017 at 1:44 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 11, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Autumnlicious - February 11, 2017 at 3:13 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 11, 2017 at 7:06 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 11, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by SteelCurtain - February 11, 2017 at 7:46 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by TaraJo - February 12, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 13, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 13, 2017 at 10:00 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 13, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by dyresand - February 13, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 16, 2017 at 7:37 pm
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 15, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: The sad future of the democratic party - by Crunchy - February 21, 2017 at 8:05 pm

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