RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis
February 16, 2017 at 5:20 pm
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2017 at 5:33 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 16, 2017 at 5:05 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Saying this again and again won't change the fact that the "wide field of study" you're talking about is founded on a question-begging assumption.Here I thought that neither of us had a problem with that field? I can never figure out what question you think that I, or science in general is begging, when you say that..by the way, lol.
Quote: It is very much NOT known how/why qualia exist.-and yet not a complete mystery. As I said, bit of an overstatement on your part. Full knowledge is not a requirement of knowledge, that would be an irrational request regardless of the subject. / shrugs
Quote:But why would I give you that explanation regarding waves, and what does it have to do with any explanation I'd give you regarding qualia? Hint: I wouldn't...and nothing. So?
If I say "Why do waves exist?" you'll say "Water and wind!" and point to the oceans. But that's not actually answering the question-- you are giving the proximate cause, when the distal cause is what matters.
This though....
Quote:All those other by-products are related to something. Qualia is not derived from anything else, or related to anything else, like all other evolutionary "by products" are. In your example, the fire and the moon share some physical properties-- they give off light. The moths have evolved to travel by light, and this ends up in their demise. But nothing is like qualia.LOL..what the actual fuck? If it's "not like" anything else though...running with that, does that bode well for the idea that it's intrinsic to the universe? If it;s not related to or derived from anything else, does that bode well for your acceptence of it having something to do with the brain?
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