Debate: God Exists

[Drich]

Easy.
If something is presented as evidence for something and that is shown not to be the case it is evidence against that something.

citation please.

Every aspect of the "evidence" for god has been found to be wrong in fact the whole basis of its supposed existence the supernatural is as far as I can tell, not a thing

such as? give me some examples of said evidence that has been 'found to be wrong.'

Every argument put forward for god has had to be revised in the face of evidence to the contrary, to the point that now god can only dwell in realms out side of scientific discovery

Don't tell me you are so small minded that you assume that God can only move through the supernatural?!?!? Where in the bible does it say that God is restricted to the supernatural?

If God created the Natural world would it not make sense to create it in such a way to compliment Himself/His will? In otherwords why would God create a place where he can only move supernaturally through it (against it's laws and against it's nature?") Now don't get me wrong I not saying A Creator God would not have complete power over nature. I am just pointing out the elementary foolishness it takes to reason God can only work supernaturally!

That said, why wouldn't everything God did 2000 years ago look supernatural? where as now some of those very things would look common or comical? Man has grown up a little, it does not mean God is any less God just because we can now grasp some of the things he has done and how. That was the whole point of putting the tree of knowledge in the garden.

No they aren't they are how people delude themselves into believing absurdities.

like the earth is flat.. Don't be hard on yourself.. some people are just followers, and feel comfort in believing what the crowd believes. It's a primal hold over from being decended from monkies.

So you think we should look until we find it!

What I am saying is you should simply look where God tells you to look, and you must have resolve in finding what you are looking for because it will be a difficult road if your heart is harden toward God. I found the harder the heart the further God must lead us out into the valley or into the desert, far beyond of recovering for ourselves, and well beyond anything anyone can do for you. So when you ask, you will know it could only be God who carries you back.

Not how this works bud.

Not for everyone, just my experience with the 'proud.'

I don't believe because its a silly idea. Its up to you to convince me otherwise.

Actually no. I am here to simply give accurate information and point you in the right direction if you want to make the journey, and I can even help you along the way. But if you are only convinced in going based off of what I said then you are going for the wrong reason.

You must go yourself because you want to know the truth for yourself. or you want to know God for yourself. I went to spit in God's eye, when I found Him, let's just say I knew why men fall prostrate before God.

People who go looking for spirituality will find something because they are predisposed to believe nonsense.

No they don't. Look at this website for example. Everyone on bothsides of the god argument are looking for something otherwise they would not be here. And most of you have found nothing. why because you are looking for something that does not exist the way you pictured it.

When I met my wife she was an evangelical Christian, but she has now dumped that for the "deeper truth" of spiritualism.

Lots of ideas seem stupid to me.
But god is one that belongs in the childhood of our species.
Time to move on from the oversimplified view of the universe that religions sell me thinks.

So now comes the true.. or rather now you have shed your aire of bigotry to full on elitism.

Riddle me this sport. where did the mathematical semitry come from that ties our universe together? How out of the randomness of an explosion comes galactic wide unity?

Religions have had thousands of years to come up with something convincing and have failed to produce anything of substance, not one thing that I can look at and even be slightly swayed by.

And again, what if it is not about religion? What if God does not take too kindly to religions? So then why should they be allowed to produce anything? Or can't you wrap your little shoe box around that fact? That the old Jewish model of God talking though prophets and priests are all but dead? The after Christ we become the prophets we become the priest via the Holy Spirit that has been poured out on the church.

You want proof of God it is as simple as it gets. Follow His instructions, and He will be waiting at the end of that road for you specifically with signs and wonders that will dispel any doubt you may personally have, but will mean little to anyone else. Why because it is about personal relationship with Him. Which is why "Religion" has come up with nothing.

I say I have an open mind because I am willing to admit that with compelling evidence my current opinion could be changed.

unfortunately for you the definition of an open mind or being open minded does not follow such a stringent vetting process.
To be open minded simple means to listen to or accept different ideas or opinions. You are not unless several layers of criteria are met.

The fool's folly in that is in the presumption that all new ideas will or can be vetted by the process you are willing to listen or accept a new idea.

The fact that you do not have compelling evidence is not a sign of my closed mind but of your inability to prove your point.

Again you are not listening. I can put you on a path who's path's end stands you before the Holy Spirit as per the promises made by Christ Himself.
Again what better proof of God is there than God?

You do know that flat earthers tend to be religious don't you?

It's ironic that you do not see your beliefs and how tightly you hold on to them as being 'religious.' Religion or religious activity while closly associated with God, most of the time, is not a God exclusive term. Your unfettered beliefs against God for example. beliefs that you are not willing to challenge or scrutinize, are indeed protected by you, as any deeply held faith based religious belief held by a muslim or Christian.

So your attempted insult fails at every level.

maybe for the simple person.

I find that sad.

why?

Well it's only once a year, and men's health and awareness is an important thing. You want to catch potential problem early as their will always be more options and time to deal with whatever may come

Ok so when I said Prostrate you thought I said Prostate because you are an idiot.

pros·trate  (prŏs′trāt′)
tr.v. pros·trat·ed, pros·trat·ing, pros·trates
1. To put or throw flat with the face down, as in submission or adoration: "He did not simply sit and meditate, he also knelt down, sometimes even prostrated himself" (Iris Murdoch).
2. To cause to lie flat: The wind prostrated the young trees.
3. To reduce to extreme weakness or incapacitation; overcome: an illness that prostrated an entire family; a nation that was prostrated by years of civil war.
adj.
1. Lying face down, as in submission or adoration.
2. Lying flat or at full length.
3. Reduced to extreme weakness or incapacitation; overcome.
4. Botany Growing flat along the ground.
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I made a joke, and ironically if you did not have a stick up your butt you'd know that.