RE: Trans people & sports
April 24, 2017 at 1:09 pm
(This post was last modified: April 24, 2017 at 1:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 20, 2017 at 12:25 pm)paulpablo Wrote: What you said is that she and Hubbard won something in a big way every now and again.Maybe the fourth times the charm? It can be reasonably called..and I have called it, winning something in a big way every now and again. Like Fox did..at her career highpoint thusfar, beasting a subpar fighter..or Hubbard did, at her career highpoint thusfar, crushing a NZ weighlifting competition while being nearly 100k under the world record for a cis female.
She's won mma fights, that's the thing she's won. And in a fairly big way, a lot of her wins were knock outs or TKO.
The disagreement I have is with the last part. Every now and again. Winning 8 fights and losing one can't reasonably be called winning every now and again.
The long lists of trans not winning something, unconsidered. Trans second places, third places, also rans...we never notice these. We didn't notice fox and Hubbard until they, frankly, did good in the "also ran" divisions.
Quote:The one thing I have interjected is similar to what you said in the sense that I don't think an advantage necessarily makes a fight unfair anyway. I'd leave that for other people to argue over what constitutes fair markers to put in place divisions in fighting leagues and so on.I don't think that there -is- a trans advantage. I do think, for example, in the case of Fox and Hubbard, there are individual advantages. I just have no idea why we think that they are or may be trans advantages.
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