RE: Quantum consciousness...
August 28, 2017 at 3:18 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2017 at 3:19 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 28, 2017 at 12:05 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Do you have experience of redness?It's safe to assume that I have the same experiences you do, just to answer any and all variations of this question that might come up.
(August 28, 2017 at 12:31 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I could use some elaboration here. What about consciousness do you think we lack and what is it you think everyone who says consciousness is undeniable are actually talking about?The very thing that purportedly separates consciousness from cognizance or even simple computational competence. Awareness or experience -in- rather than awareness or experience -of- a first person.
Quote:But what strikes me as the most glaring mistake is the glib assumption that our conscious capacity to carry on an internal narrative is the owner or ruler of our consciousness. But even if consciousness arises from a multitude of innocuous bits in the end we are aware of feeling states and perceptions and ideas, all of which contribute to the first person subjective experience which I think is central to what we mean by consciousness. If you don't agree with that, again, what do you think is the real subject of discussion where consciousness is concerned?I agree, when people discuss their consciousness all of that is central.
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