"Militia", what that meant then.

[Tiberius]

We're talking two different conversations here.

Yes, and my question was in regards to you claiming that "well regulated" meant "trained". I'm not saying you're wrong, I just haven't seen it used in that context historically. For example, my sources all seem to use it in the sense that I described, as something that "works" or is "in working order".

And this reasoning, like that of the "originalists" ignores how language was used back then. The phrase "well regulated militia" had a very specific meaning in the 1770's, viz a part time, volunteer, defence force solely under the control of the government of the land or the officers thereof.

The fact that right wing judges and legislators have decided to interpret that phrase as to mean everybody is a travesty of the law and of the constitution. But then again, right wingers don't give two shits about the law or the public good.

Have you got any historical sources that back up the specific meaning, because I posted mine already. The phrase "well regulated" certainly appears in literature from the time in the context of "working" rather than meaning anything to do with legislation.