RE: Is religion cause of most wars?
October 4, 2017 at 6:55 pm
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2017 at 7:00 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
Agenda,
You can be a militant anything if you have a strong positive opposition to views that are opposite of your own. Atheism is no different. Atheism simply means that you have no religious beliefs and don't believe in any God(s). But you can absolutely be a "militant atheist" if apart from that, you have a strong positive opposition to religious belief and those who hold them, and are active in fighting against it. So much so that you would make it a point to erradicate religion and kill religious folks. Which is what happened in the Soviet union. It's incredibly dishonest to say you can't be a militant atheist or that Stalin and company weren't militant atheists.
As for your last paragraph...
You associate me with Bin Laden because he is a Radical Islamist and I'm a Christian, and that somehow makes his views and my views "kissing cousins". But when I simply point out that Stalin was an atheist on a thread that is specifically about his atheism, it's like "Ohhh no no no. Can't say that!"
I'm not even associating him with any of you. In fact, I made it a point to say on one of my first posts here that he doesn't speak for atheists, whom I said are vastly decent, normal people. I simply said, on topic, that he was an atheist and was motivated in large part by his extreme opposition to theism to do heinous things to people of faith. Pointing that out doesn't mean I'm saying he speaks for atheism or atheist folks.
I don't see where I am being hypocritical, and in fact feel like the hypocrisy and double standards in your posts are astounding. Which is incredibly disapointing because i saw you as one of the more fair, objective people here. Ive honestly lost so much respect for you.
Still don't get what you mean. You talk about us having different core beliefs and then say we have the the same core beliefs. What?
You can be a militant anything if you have a strong positive opposition to views that are opposite of your own. Atheism is no different. Atheism simply means that you have no religious beliefs and don't believe in any God(s). But you can absolutely be a "militant atheist" if apart from that, you have a strong positive opposition to religious belief and those who hold them, and are active in fighting against it. So much so that you would make it a point to erradicate religion and kill religious folks. Which is what happened in the Soviet union. It's incredibly dishonest to say you can't be a militant atheist or that Stalin and company weren't militant atheists.
As for your last paragraph...
You associate me with Bin Laden because he is a Radical Islamist and I'm a Christian, and that somehow makes his views and my views "kissing cousins". But when I simply point out that Stalin was an atheist on a thread that is specifically about his atheism, it's like "Ohhh no no no. Can't say that!"
I'm not even associating him with any of you. In fact, I made it a point to say on one of my first posts here that he doesn't speak for atheists, whom I said are vastly decent, normal people. I simply said, on topic, that he was an atheist and was motivated in large part by his extreme opposition to theism to do heinous things to people of faith. Pointing that out doesn't mean I'm saying he speaks for atheism or atheist folks.
I don't see where I am being hypocritical, and in fact feel like the hypocrisy and double standards in your posts are astounding. Which is incredibly disapointing because i saw you as one of the more fair, objective people here. Ive honestly lost so much respect for you.
(October 4, 2017 at 6:17 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:(October 4, 2017 at 6:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Im not sure what you mean.
I mean if one was to compare your core religious beliefs to that of Bin Laden's core religious beliefs, I'm wondering how much of a dissent would there be in how the both of you accepted the same core belief in relation to god.
Maybe I'm just wrong and should wait for Agenda's clarification.
Still don't get what you mean. You talk about us having different core beliefs and then say we have the the same core beliefs. What?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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