"Militia", what that meant then.

[The Grand Nudger]

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So, "no taxation without representation" was a fair assessment of the position of the colonists and the founding fathers weren't first and foremost propagandists. You've moved the goalpost again to say the quote was true, but it was also used as propaganda. First, it was a dubious claim. How far we've come, Khem.

It's clear that the same state which used it to work up the rabble had no interest in enfrenchising that same rabble.  I don't know what to tell you.  I call that dubious, you don't.  

Suggesting I think James Otis was the only rebel is disengenuous. I brought him up because he coined the phrase. It's also not entirely certain that he ever carried a musket, as you just said he did. He was disabled by the time the war began. He may have snuck up to Bunker Hill with a neighbor's musket, but that could be just a story. I also don't think my position has to do with keeping anyone on a pedestal. I'm talking about historical accuracy, not your feelings.

My feelings, lol?  My comments regarding Otis were meant only to suggest that the motivations of the individual rebels themselves were not his comments or position.

Count this as another debate I'm bailing from because I can't be bothered.

Okay.