Another mass shooting.....

[Brian37]

Which one? This last one was 26 from the reports I got. 

Pulse and Vegas were even bigger, but when the fuck are we going to stop making firearms so damned easy to obtain? 

I always hear the far right say, "Just keep them out of the wrong hands". AND RUN from their own arguments when we agree.


There is no pragmatism coming from that side. All they have is "No" and "sell more and do nothing'.

At the point I posted that, it was only 20. Within minutes of that, it was revised to 27, then down to 26.

I'm not completely against firearms for people who are able-bodied and sound-minded, but "assault" rifles came up between me and my mother in the car the other day, and I didn't realize that apparently means military-grade guns (which I know this was). No reason for stuff like that on the market.

Neither am I. That is the part I fucking hate. i hate the worshipers trying to claim that when we say "Hey guys, what we are doing is not working" they have been so fucking deeply indoctrinated by the NRA and companies, they stupidly think the sane are calling for a 100% ban on all firearms. NO WE ARE NOT!

I cant say this enough. NO WE ARE NOT! Just like Nadar was not calling for an end to cars for saying "your products suck".

We cant keep making them at the volume we are. We cant keep obstructing the idea of keeping them out of the hands of the mentally ill, terrorists, domestic abusers, workplace grudgers, teens, gangs. It does not matter. If what the right claimed was working, which it is not, we should expect to see less firearm deaths but we are not getting those results.

That says to me, that this has always been about money, CEOS and shareholders and a profit lobby. Just like big oil fought for decades to keep lead in gas. Just like big tobacco kept it's horrible marketing to maintain it's profits.

This has never been about rights for the industry or their lobby. This has always been about profits.

The right always says, "Just keep them out of the wrong hands" AND WE AGREE, then shout "NO!" even when we agree with them.