Potentially Big News On The Human Evolution Front

[Catholic_Lady]

[quote='Brian37' pid='1660178' dateline='1511194781']

I cannot understand how you can accept modern science rightfully, but still think an old book of mythology explains anything in modern terms. I feel the same way when Jews and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists try to square modern science with old writings too. 

1. The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins
2. God, The Failed Hypothesis, Victor Stenger
3. The New Atheism, Victor Stenger

I was an atheist long before I read those books, but because of the science in them, the combo of those three gave me a much more solid picture of where our species evolution, including our universal traits come from, our empathy, our cruelty, but especially our false perceptions. 

If you accept the science then you should not cherry pick what it says when it conflicts with your own wishes. 

We are an outcome of natural processes, like all other life, we are not a product made by an invisible magical factory owner.

This opens up the possibility that the first thing to ever have existed isnt bound by time, didn't need an origin for which it came from, and could be infinite/always have existed.

And why couldn't that just be the cosmos?  if you're willing to accept that a god could have those attributes, why couldn't our universe have them?  The problem begins when we start asserting other things on top of those qualities, such as agency, will, desires, a plan, and an ability to interact with existence while remaining physically undetectable.

My bold.

Where would the cosmos have come from though?

In the natural, physical world, things have an origin. There is no evidence that anything can materialize out of nothing, only evidence to the contrary.

But if we consider the possibility of something beyond the natural, physical world, it opens up a possibility that there may be something that might not be bound by these laws of nature. I find that more likely.