Potentially Big News On The Human Evolution Front

[Amarok]

But they are different. You have read Carl Sagans work on subject ?

Pale Blue Dot is what I know him from. I do need to read more of his stuff though. That speech made me cry. 

Ok, you are saying they are different. Still, a tree is not a forest either, and neither would require the Keeebler Elf to make a forest or a tree.

Oh of course neither requires the supernatural . I'm just pointing out myself Sagan and other people  regard them as two different things.