RE: God is so quiet
February 7, 2018 at 10:48 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2018 at 12:12 am by LadyForCamus.)
(February 7, 2018 at 10:19 pm)SteveII Wrote:(February 7, 2018 at 9:40 pm)Grandizer Wrote: And if the universe/cosmos exists, it does so necessarily (it could not have been otherwise, especially if we include multiverses in the picture). We have clear evidence the universe exists. God, on the other hand, we have virtually nil evidence of.
Inductive arguments, by the way, doesn't mean you can invoke entities out of nowhere.
No, there is no logical reason that the physical universe/cosmos/multiverse exists necessarily.
This is simply not true at all. Quite the opposite, in fact. The universe existing necessarily is the only logical explanation, IMO.
Quote:Necessarily' means "could not have been otherwise".
correct.
Quote:We can all conceive of a state of affairs (a possible world) where nothing at all exists
We could conceive of that world, sure. But it wouldn’t be nothing. Nothing cannot “be”, or, “have been” any type of world, or any kind of thing, lol. Absolute nothingness is a logically incoherent concept, try as we might. Any “state of affairs” would not be nothing. It would be some kind of state...with affairs. ‘Absolute nothing’, is simply an expression of the human mind attempting to comprehend, ‘not any of this’.
Quote:Since we can conceive of both possible worlds as being broadly logically possible
We may instinctively attempt to conceive of “nothing” as a way to maintain logical continuity within this ‘cause and effect’ type of experience we’re used to, but “nothing”, described as any kind of thing, is by definition something, not nothing. And, non-existence, by definition, cannot exist.
Ya’ll get any of that? 😝
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.