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Are Atheists using Intellectually Dishonest Arguments?
RE: Are Atheists using Intellectually Dishonest Arguments?
(March 11, 2018 at 2:38 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(March 11, 2018 at 1:31 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Actually the definition for "parsimony" means to be frugal or extreme economy.  I'm not sure where you got your definition from.  However in this context I didn't mean to imply anything different.  As I mentioned, in reference to Occam's Razor, versions of the word "simple" are often seen, and I don't think there is any distinction being made with the word "parsimonious" when they are interchanged.  I don't think that I have ever seen "parsimony" defined in quite the way you have, but nerveless  I wasn't trying to convey anything different.  Frankly I think it is the context with both words that conveys that particular meaning.   In the end, the goal is that we not make things more complicated than need be.

You may also be interested to look up the Principle of Simplicity...

This is what you said previously in response to Hammy:

Quote:Also... you don’t just automatically go with the simplest idea no matter what.... I don’t think you understand this either. Smile

I'm going by the words you're using here, and it seems to me that you weren't thinking of simplicity in terms of "explanation" and "evidence", but merely in terms of the simplicity of the idea itself.

I distinguish between parsimony and simplicity to make it clear that parsimony isn't mere simplicity. However, if you understand what simplicity is supposed to mean scientifically and philosophically speaking, then great.

After all:

Quote:“Ockham’s razor”, which is often interpreted as enjoining us to prefer the simplest theory consistent with the available evidence

http://www.iep.utm.edu/simplici/

(March 11, 2018 at 2:14 am)Succubus Wrote: No! Fuckin no!

Yes! Fuckin yes!

Quote:One. Last. Time.

Where did the universe come from.

a) God made it.

b) We don't know.

Now apply the razor. And this is the last time Y'all have to get it right.

Once again, you can't apply the razor here because 'b' is just a statement of ignorance. It's not an attempt to explain anything, dude.

Glad we cleared up that misunderstanding.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
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RE: Are Atheists using Intellectually Dishonest Arguments? - by RoadRunner79 - March 11, 2018 at 3:04 am

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