(April 7, 2018 at 12:11 pm)alpha male Wrote:(April 7, 2018 at 8:44 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I’m sure we’re going to disagree on the details, but yeah, I think at a certain point in gestation it becomes immoral to abort. I’m not sure where that line should be drawn, but I think it’s a discussion definitely worth having. I believe it is morally wrong, for example, for a woman to walk into a clinic at 20 weeks pregnant and ask for an abortion simply because she doesn’t want the baby. Now, I know that most late term abortions aren’t for that reason, and we should make exceptions for instances where the fetus is no longer viable or the mother’s life is in immediate danger, but I would support 20 week bans that fall outside of those circumstances. At 20 weeks we are no longer talking about a microscopic ball of undifferentiated cells. We are talking about a living creature with a developing central nervous system that can hear, taste, feel anxiety and comfort, and possibly (I know it’s disputed) feel pain. Just because a living thing isn’t fully conscious doesn’t mean it’s always morally right to end its life. I think most of us would say it’s immoral to euthanize, say, a pet hamster just because you didn’t want it anymore and it became an inconvenience. Why should anyone be allowed to treat a human baby that way?
Yes, we disagree on the details, but in essence we're each willing to judge what a woman does with her uterus. As an atheist who wants to fit in here, you don't say Sorry Tres, but if you're 20 weeks along I have an opinion on what you should and shouldn't do with your uterus - but that apparently is the case.
I don’t think it’s about judgement. I think it’s about being willing to discuss a complex moral dilemma. There are no easy answers, IMO. It’s the people who pretend there are who I think are on the wrong side.
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Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.