RE: The Philosophy of Mind: Zombies, "radical emergence" and evidence of non-experiential
April 22, 2018 at 8:39 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2018 at 8:48 am by The Grand Nudger.)
-as an addendum to the above. We know that it must have happened -no later- than 50k years ago at full modernity. We know that, in the space of the intervening 40k years..it;s derivative product became more complicated, more elaborate, more competent. We know that by full sociological modernity...we were the apex species of the planet.
Your perpetual rejoinder can be reduced to: "There may be other ways to do this, and x can't even free will, therefore x is evolutionarily useless". I consider this to be self evidently false.
(April 22, 2018 at 8:32 am)Hammy Wrote:If you say so...whether or not some other x can do art is..however, irrelevant to us. We "do art" in our specifically human and perceptualyl conscious style. Our art, our communication, our culture, our civilization..our personal relationships...all of it positively steeped in consciousness and extinction inducingly advantageous.(April 22, 2018 at 8:21 am)Khemikal Wrote: Do those descriptions of qualia as art or communication..or collectively as culture and civilization, reproductively advantage human beings?
Again, you're equivocating again. Art still exists without qualia unless you literally define art as artistic phenomenal objects...
Your perpetual rejoinder can be reduced to: "There may be other ways to do this, and x can't even free will, therefore x is evolutionarily useless". I consider this to be self evidently false.
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