Group prayer on Skype on behalf of our Christian members

[Huggy Bear]

I think you need to learn the difference between the ability to solve problems vs the ability to reason.

Young children have the ability to problem solve, yet we don't hold them responsible for their actions, why?

OK do tell me what the difference is between being able to solve problems vs the ability to reason. And while you're at it, tell me how you solve problems without an ability to reason.

Are you telling me that you don't know the difference between reasoning and problem solving?

If problem solving is arriving at a solution to said problem, then reason is understanding the methods utilized to arrive at the solution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_solving

Problem solving consists of using generic or ad hoc methods, in an orderly manner, to find solutions to problems. Some of the problem-solving techniques developed and used in artificial intelligence, computer science, engineering, mathematics, or medicine are related to mental problem-solving techniques studied in psychology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason

Reason is the capacity for consciously making sense of things, establishing and verifying facts, applying logic, and changing or justifying practices, institutions, and beliefs based on new or existing information. It is closely associated with such characteristically human activities as philosophy, science, language, mathematics, and art and is normally considered to be a distinguishing ability possessed by humans. Reason, or an aspect of it, is sometimes referred to as rationality.

*emphasis mine*
See, there IS a difference...

And yes, we do hold children responsible for their actions. Just not as much as adults. But that's because children are still developing, along with their ability to reason and solve problems.

Do you allow children to enter into contractual agreements where you're from?

Self-taught, ‘superhuman’ AI now even smarter, says creators


My question to you is, do you belive a computer posses the ability to reason?

Without getting into issues of defining exactly what is meant by an ability to reason, which is actually a layman term that allows someone like you to equivocate. Yes computers can be programmed to reason and have done for many decades now. But certainly not as well as an animal. And that includes AlphaGo Zero.

I'm not even going to bother trying to explain why to you.

According to the definition of reason I posted, you're wrong.

Not to mention the computer wasn't programed to play the game, the article clearly states it taught itself, and the fact that it taught itself and can wipe the floor with masters of the game, means that the computer has better reasoning capabilities than humans... according to your definition.