RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 15, 2018 at 12:13 pm
(This post was last modified: August 15, 2018 at 12:28 pm by Brian37.)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/us/ny-wro...index.html
This is one case of an innocent person ending up in prison for a murder they did not commit.
And here is a long history of wrongful convictions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wr...ted_States
And things like thee above are why this org exists.
https://www.innocenceproject.org/
And I am saying if you are going to concede that wrongful convictions happen, then there is no good reason to support the death penalty. We do not live in a utopia.There is no way to separate BTK from a non famous even single murder, say of a spouse, because the law, is the same no matter how many you kill, or are even falsely accused of.
Like I said, it is wrong to focus solely on the nature of the charge and seek revenge. If that festers in society, long term you end up with over zealous police, prosecutors and a society of potential jury pools looking for revenge. THAT goes with any crime, not just murder.
This is one case of an innocent person ending up in prison for a murder they did not commit.
And here is a long history of wrongful convictions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wr...ted_States
And things like thee above are why this org exists.
https://www.innocenceproject.org/
(August 15, 2018 at 12:09 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(August 15, 2018 at 11:51 am)Brian37 Wrote: Holy crap, nobody gives a fuck about that sicko, not the point.
The point is our laws cover everyone, not just the famous people you hear about. In a perfect world I would agree, but we DON'T LIVE in a perfect world, and it is easy to armchair quarterback solely based on famous cases.
I just told you WHY it is a bad thing. I personally talked to a man who spoke at the college I went to, whom WAS ON DEATH ROW, and why was he? Because the prosecutor DID NOT disclose evidence to the defense that would have PREVENTED the charges from being filed in the first place. AND I also talked to a prisoner almost executed SOLELY based on the testimony of another prisoner. Prisoners can and do lie to get more privilege in prison.
You cannot take a small sample and base your parameters based on that one sample. EVEN outside the issue of murder, if you do not have the money like a rich person, it is harder for you to defend yourself solely with the help of a public defender.
In a perfect world I'd agree, but since our justice system DOES NOT FUND public defenders enough to defend their overwhelming case loads, mistakes can and are made all the time.
THAT GOES WITH ANY CRIME, not just the famous ones you hear about.
BTK wasn’t meant to be my whole argument in favor of the death penalty; Jesus. That was simply my
response to Tiz’s pointed question. Sometimes it feels like you are talking at me, instead of to me. I will concede that it makes no pragmatic sense considering the facts, and it should be stopped if even one innocent person is wrongfully executed, which I understand happens. I’m simply saying that if there was a way we could prevent that from ever happening again, then I would have no moral objection to executing people the likes of the BTK.
And I am saying if you are going to concede that wrongful convictions happen, then there is no good reason to support the death penalty. We do not live in a utopia.There is no way to separate BTK from a non famous even single murder, say of a spouse, because the law, is the same no matter how many you kill, or are even falsely accused of.
Like I said, it is wrong to focus solely on the nature of the charge and seek revenge. If that festers in society, long term you end up with over zealous police, prosecutors and a society of potential jury pools looking for revenge. THAT goes with any crime, not just murder.