(October 3, 2011 at 7:36 am)lucent Wrote:(October 3, 2011 at 6:47 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(October 3, 2011 at 5:44 am)lucent Wrote: Okay, do you have any evidence to prove your claim that it isn't rational to believe something without sufficient evidence?
So you receive an email from a nigerian doctor (whom you've never heard of)claiming that he has access to 25 million dollars but he wants your bank account details so he can deposit the money in your account and then you can go halves.
Would you accept that or ask for more evidence?
That is one example of a circumstance where belief without sufficient evidence would be irrational. It doesn't, however, prove the universal claim that all belief without evidence is irrational.
Why??
(October 3, 2011 at 7:36 am)lucent Wrote: For instance, I believe that there is an external world beyond what I experience in my mind. There is no way to prove this, however, I choose to believe it anyway. Am I irrational to believe this? According to your proposition, I am.
Must make it hard for you to do anything then...mainly because "it" may or may not be 'there' for you to interact with. so you have no way to prove anything so therefore even your 'belief in this godboy since it cannot be proved by this line of reasoning it must be an irrational delusion? Have I got that right??
(October 3, 2011 at 7:36 am)lucent Wrote: This alone proves that the claim is logically self-refuting, because there isn't any evidence which could prove it is universally true. Therefore, it in itself is an irrational belief.
Didn't I just say that? So your belief in this godboy is irrational since you are unable to prove it one way or the other and so you are no better than a sheep-le doing as you are told?? I thought we had places called mental asylums for that mind set?
Or have I stuffed up yet again??
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