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Ultra Massive Black Holes......
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RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes......
(February 1, 2019 at 1:45 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(February 1, 2019 at 12:39 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Check this one out Brian Read :

[Image: 0imwOs2.png]

That is somewhat deceptive.  Extended exposure created a incorrect visual impression of relative size of IC1101.   Ic1101 actually consist of central portion where the density of stars resemble the main parts of ordinary galaxies like Milky Way.  That part is perhaps only 3-4 times the size of the Milky Way.   The rest of IC1101 is a very tenuous and faint halo of stars that extends out to 10 times the size of Milky Way.  

To be sure ic1101 is still much more massive than the Milky Way.  But the discrepancy in mass is not as large as difference in the image size of the two glalxies might imply.

Still.

This is minor as far a I am concerned.

It still points out that there are bigger bodies in the cosmos then what laypeople normally think of. It does not take away the fact that there are differences in star sizes, galaxy sizes or black holes. As you said, "still much more massive". 

When you say things like this, it allows theists to go, "SEE SEE SEE, my old bronze aged goat herder god is real."

(February 1, 2019 at 1:48 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(February 1, 2019 at 1:37 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Here is the link to that picture. In the first link. The rest are other stories CONFIRMING black holes.

https://www.opb.org/news/article/black-h...servatory/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46428010

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/ligo...collisions

http://hubblesite.org/reference_desk/faq...cat=exotic


The point is no observation available to us that is used to confirm a phenomenon as being a black hole can conclusively exclude the possibility that the same phenomenon is in reality just a black star.   The two appear sufficiently similar that we currently have no way of telling them apart.    The reason why we prefer the black hole explanation is the physics behind the black star explanation is less well understood.

Even the black hole in the center of the Milky Way is called "Sagittarius A STAR".

And? The point is that black holes still exist, and what we are seeing in every case is immense gravity as to the point that not even light can escape.

The only debate now is what is beyond the event horizon.
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Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 11:25 am
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Yonadav - February 1, 2019 at 12:29 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 12:38 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Yonadav - February 1, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 12:48 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Yonadav - February 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 1:04 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Anomalocaris - February 1, 2019 at 1:27 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Deesse23 - February 1, 2019 at 12:39 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 12:44 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Deesse23 - February 1, 2019 at 1:06 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Anomalocaris - February 1, 2019 at 1:45 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 1:52 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Anomalocaris - February 1, 2019 at 2:01 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 2:17 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Yonadav - February 1, 2019 at 2:40 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 2:42 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Yonadav - February 1, 2019 at 2:49 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 2:58 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by polymath257 - February 10, 2019 at 11:02 am
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 1, 2019 at 12:51 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 12:55 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Yonadav - February 1, 2019 at 1:10 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 1:18 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Yonadav - February 1, 2019 at 1:21 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 1:33 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 1, 2019 at 12:58 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Sal - February 1, 2019 at 1:25 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Anomalocaris - February 1, 2019 at 3:28 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 3:43 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 10, 2019 at 4:02 am
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Yonadav - February 1, 2019 at 1:35 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 1:37 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Anomalocaris - February 1, 2019 at 1:48 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by LastPoet - February 1, 2019 at 2:00 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 1, 2019 at 1:48 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Anomalocaris - February 1, 2019 at 2:24 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Brian37 - February 1, 2019 at 2:32 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by EgoDeath - February 10, 2019 at 3:31 am
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 10, 2019 at 9:38 am
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Yonadav - February 10, 2019 at 9:50 am
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 10, 2019 at 2:49 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Yonadav - February 10, 2019 at 3:15 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 10, 2019 at 6:32 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Anomalocaris - February 10, 2019 at 12:38 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by polymath257 - February 10, 2019 at 1:38 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Anomalocaris - February 10, 2019 at 2:10 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by polymath257 - February 10, 2019 at 4:18 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Anomalocaris - February 10, 2019 at 11:32 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by polymath257 - February 11, 2019 at 8:46 am
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Jehanne - February 11, 2019 at 9:51 am
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 10, 2019 at 1:45 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Anomalocaris - February 10, 2019 at 4:04 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 11, 2019 at 6:21 am
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by tahaadi - February 10, 2019 at 9:54 pm
RE: Ultra Massive Black Holes...... - by vulcanlogician - February 10, 2019 at 11:17 pm

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