(November 16, 2011 at 3:38 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(November 15, 2011 at 7:35 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Which doesn't prove god. So what we know is that god is unproven, and some believe in him despite this.And that is precicely the point. Faith is an absolute requirement. Never blind faith, but rationally derived faith, as defined above.
The concept of God hasn't changed one little bit. What has changed is our mindset which irrationally dismisses faith on materialist grounds.
Oh here we go again.
There is nothing rational about faith and there is nothing irrational about dismissing faith. Faith is unevidenced belief.
As for materialist grounds of evidence, we live in a material world, so material proof is required. god could provide material proof that he exists right here right now.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.