(January 26, 2022 at 1:28 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:Behold a man talking facts and logic to a screeching idealogue(January 25, 2022 at 11:52 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Everyone or practically everyone is going to catch covid, no matter how many people are vaccinated. If someone can't take the vaccine and doesn't feel comfortable coming into work, let them work from home or they can get another job where they can work from home. That sounds more reasonable to me than forcing millions against their will to do something.Just so we’re clear, the amount of people who legitimately can’t take the vaccine is extremely small.
(January 25, 2022 at 10:47 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Most of the population has chosen to get voluntarily vaccinated. An overwhelming majority of older people and people in poor health have voluntarily gotten vaccinated. This is part of the reason why mandates don't seem necessary. Why force young people to get it when they are extremely likely to come out of it just fine, and death is very, very unlikely for them? I don't see the need to force them, when the people in the most vulnerable groups have already gotten the vaccine and therefore have a decent level of protection from covid. You can say that the virus is going to get passed around more often with less people vaccinated, but everyone is getting Omicron regardless right now. This virus will find a way to spread whether people are vaccinated or not.Once again: you’re still less likely to get complications from the disease if you get vaccinated if that’s the only controlling factor. Especially if everybody’s going to get it eventually. And if young people are less likely to die or get complications from COVID, the vaccine makes it even less likely.
With previous case of COVID: Vaxxed>unvaxxed
No previous case of COVID: Vaxxed>unvaxxed
If you had the disease before, it’s belt and braces immunity. If you didn’t, you become less likely to get a serious case. Unless your immune system is that shit, there is no circumstance where getting vaccinated doesn’t give you an edge. Maybe if you get a severe side effect, but the odds of that are very small (like 1 in 4000 small, probably even smaller if you manage to control for mere correlation that isn’t causation) and I don’t know if you can predict whether you’re the 1 or the 3999 (fun fact: I’m one of the people who inevitably gets the flu whenever they get the flu vaccine, but I only got mild side effects from the third dose), but the odds are almost certainly in your favor.
And while a good-sized majority of the most vulnerable in the population have gotten the vaccine, not enough of the general population have gotten it to reach herd immunity.
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM