Covid 19 conspiracies dump

[Rev. Rye]

Cringe. No one said covid is not dangerous. How many lives do vaccine mandates save? The overwhelming majority of people in high risk categories have voluntarily gotten vaccinated, therefore they have decent protection already, and other people choosing not to get vaccinated doesn't mean much, because we're all going to get covid. Other people getting vaccinated is not going to stop you from getting covid. Time for you to accept this reality and quit acting like we're living through the black plague.

Is there any particular reason we're acting like seven-day average for deaths from COVID hasn't been skyocketing? Because, when I look at it right now, it's at 2,526 per day. The last time it was that high, the vaccine wasn't readily available. And now that it is available, it's the unvaccinated who are more likely to get it bad enough to get hospitalised and die. There's some merit in "natural immunity," but remember that in order to get that, you have to get the disease. And if you've neither had the vaccine nor the virus before you get sick, you're far more likely to get a bad case, or die.

We may all end up getting COVID at some point, but all the evidence I've been able to find tells me that, even with Omicron, the vaccinated are less likely to develop a bad case.

And about the "other people getting vaccinated not stopping you from getting COVID" thing, well, I'll just leave this here:



Admittedly, it looks like COVID is more likely to end up going endemic than getting eradicated (though we haven't reached the endemic stage yet), but once as many people either get the disease or the vaccine as is possible, we might actually start getting back to normal.  And given the choice between the vaccine and getting the disease, I'd gladly pick the one that isn't going to stretch our health care resources to their limits.

Children are being forced to get vaccinated to remain on their little league teams, and flu is much more dangerous for them and deadly for them. Explain your reasoning behind supporting little kids being compelled to go through a medical procedure that their parents are not comfortable with them getting.

There have been vaccine mandates for schoolchildren for decades. Even before the world ended, my home state of Illinois mandated vaccination against A DOZEN illnesses before they could start kindergarten, and many of those diseases (most notably varicella/chicken pox) are more dangerous for older patients than kindergarten age. The only exceptions to this are if A: they were already immune, B: there was a legitimate medical problem that would make getting the vaccine worse (very rare), or C: a legitimate religious exemption (one that, in practice, only faith healing denominations have tended to get). And given that:

•  The virus is causing large amounts of death and devastation
  
• There's a vaccine readily available that can help curb that problem
  
• I (and, indeed, the scientists studying the disease) have yet to find an objection to the vaccine that actually holds up to scrutiny (and not for lack of trying)
  
• There is precedent for the government overriding the parents' wishes in cases where it was clear that the parents' wishes went against their children's best interest.
  

I have zero issue with compelling a child to get the shot if their parents refuse to allow them to get it.