RE: Covid 19 conspiracies dump
February 25, 2022 at 7:20 pm
(This post was last modified: February 25, 2022 at 8:16 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
(February 25, 2022 at 6:49 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:Most Muslims don't do any of the practices he points to nor any of those practices required to be a Muslim and the Quran was written in a time were practices like those were common by contrast the Confederacy's idealogy was already out of step with most of the western world so they don't get the same excuse. So his comparison is silly.(February 25, 2022 at 6:22 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I take your Dylann Roof and George Floyd and I raise you a 9/11, countless other terrorist attacks, honour killings, throwing gays off roofs, grooming gangs, clit choppings, etc. Do these things make it unacceptable for a Muslim to own a Quran?
More or less unacceptable than you enjoying your white supremacist fan fiction? I notice you're a free man. We've all learned to put up with your respective love for shitty fairy tales - but, unfortunately, this is a lesson that the islamists and white supremacists have not learned, always threatening some bloody rahowa on the great satan. At some point, you just have to throw your hands up and give them what they want. A shitty pointless death at the hands of nonplussed federal troops.
That's how this ends, in all places and at every point in history.
Besides, it's all tyranny against the poor suffering white man anyway. How else could it end?
(February 25, 2022 at 7:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:Lol he makes another false comparison the Quran and Cresent moon have nothing inherently to do 9/11 Dylan's's Roof action have everything to do the core idealogy of the flag he venerated(February 25, 2022 at 6:57 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: If another 9/11 happens and I start saying that it's unacceptable for Muslims to own a Quran or to wear the crescent and star because of that new 9/11, that's not me making sense.
Business as usual, then?
This symbol has been used by peaceful groups and by vile groups
This book is the same and its worst elements have been debated for centuries
This symbol has only one legacy and has only one idealogy attached to it and it isn't one worth venerating
(February 25, 2022 at 6:37 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Yes, people have done a LOT of horrible shit in the name of Islam. And due to the nature of the text (let's face it, there's as much blatant contradiction in the Quran as there is in the Bible), it's also easy to find Muslims who not only disavow any and all of those bad things, but can probably find and cite some sura and verse about why what they did is against Allah's will. Maybe if there's some event so horrific that any and all moderates decide to abandon ship, but that hasn't happened yet for Islam.The wost elements of Islam don't make Islam
And at no point have I ever said that it's unacceptable to own anything with a Confederate flag on it. The issue is what it means to display it in public and what it ends up saying about the person doing it.
The worst elements of the Confederacy WAS the Confederacy
Plus it's a historical mistake to compare Islam to the Confederacy anyway. ISIS or al Qaeda were fringe extremists group WITHIN Islam that any action taken by those groups can be separated from Islam itself. The Confederacy was one block with a unified central idealogy written into law and practice and can't be divorced from those foundations. In other words
If it isn't pro-slavery and white supremacist it isn't the confederacy
If it isn't pro-terrorism it can still be Islam
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
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Nemo sicut deus debet esse!
“No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM