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A knockdown prophecy
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RE: A knockdown prophecy
(September 7, 2022 at 11:30 am)R00tKiT Wrote: Although that's part of the mentioned hadith, it's another topic entirely. Suffice it to say that there is necessarily a first human. Even without any knowledge of evolution or biology, we can declare with 100% confidence that there is a first male we label Adam.

No, there isn't.  Evolution doesn't work that way.  One could always say "modern humans have gene ABC, and pre-humans didn't", but then you would probably find some modern humans that don't have gen ABC either, and that gene might end up being found in some ancient hominids in some degree.

Also the idea of a common male chromosome-Y ancestor, seems reasonable, but that isn't all your genes!  Every gene in your body has a different common ancestor, and some go back to the time of bacteria.  The common female mitochondrial ancestor isn't even a common ancestor of any of your genes, but of a symbiote. Plus, the common ancestor of these just means the other lines died out, not that they weren't equivalent or in any way substantially different.

There is therefore no first male or first female human.



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A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 6, 2022 at 6:10 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 6, 2022 at 6:21 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by arewethereyet - September 6, 2022 at 7:19 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Jehanne - September 6, 2022 at 7:48 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Deesse23 - September 7, 2022 at 2:38 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 7, 2022 at 1:22 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Deesse23 - September 7, 2022 at 1:39 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 7, 2022 at 4:08 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Ahriman - September 7, 2022 at 4:10 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 7, 2022 at 4:37 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Ahriman - September 7, 2022 at 4:57 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Peebothuhlu - September 7, 2022 at 5:12 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 7, 2022 at 5:19 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Ahriman - September 7, 2022 at 5:29 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by arewethereyet - September 7, 2022 at 5:52 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Ahriman - September 7, 2022 at 5:57 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 7, 2022 at 6:06 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Ahriman - September 7, 2022 at 6:32 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by zebo-the-fat - September 7, 2022 at 6:34 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 7, 2022 at 7:42 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Valkyrie - September 10, 2022 at 2:33 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by zebo-the-fat - September 7, 2022 at 5:28 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Mister Agenda - September 7, 2022 at 9:25 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Peebothuhlu - September 7, 2022 at 5:11 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by GUBU - September 7, 2022 at 5:43 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 7, 2022 at 10:55 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 7, 2022 at 12:53 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 7, 2022 at 2:48 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 7, 2022 at 2:59 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Deesse23 - September 7, 2022 at 3:59 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 9, 2022 at 2:46 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Deesse23 - September 10, 2022 at 1:07 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 10, 2022 at 7:20 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 11, 2022 at 2:12 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by GUBU - September 7, 2022 at 12:55 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Mister Agenda - September 8, 2022 at 9:10 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 8:01 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2022 at 9:24 am
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RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Mister Agenda - September 7, 2022 at 9:24 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 9:37 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 7, 2022 at 9:38 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Jehanne - September 7, 2022 at 9:24 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Mister Agenda - September 7, 2022 at 9:30 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Jehanne - September 7, 2022 at 9:42 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 9:50 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 10:20 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Jehanne - September 7, 2022 at 10:32 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Jehanne - September 7, 2022 at 11:01 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 11:06 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 7, 2022 at 11:30 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by HappySkeptic - September 7, 2022 at 11:50 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 7, 2022 at 12:14 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Mister Agenda - September 8, 2022 at 9:20 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 9, 2022 at 2:57 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 9, 2022 at 3:12 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 9, 2022 at 3:29 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Mister Agenda - September 10, 2022 at 10:19 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 11:04 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2022 at 11:15 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 11:35 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 7, 2022 at 12:11 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Ahriman - September 7, 2022 at 11:27 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2022 at 11:33 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Foxaèr - September 7, 2022 at 8:09 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 11:36 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 11:37 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 12:00 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by zebo-the-fat - September 7, 2022 at 12:01 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2022 at 12:18 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 12:28 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 12:41 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 7, 2022 at 1:12 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Jehanne - September 7, 2022 at 1:31 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2022 at 2:17 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 2:29 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2022 at 2:44 pm
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RE: A knockdown prophecy - by LadyForCamus - September 7, 2022 at 4:38 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2022 at 4:47 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Jehanne - September 7, 2022 at 5:19 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 7, 2022 at 5:58 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Astreja - September 7, 2022 at 6:27 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 7, 2022 at 6:32 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 7, 2022 at 7:26 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 8, 2022 at 10:04 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 9, 2022 at 2:51 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Mister Agenda - September 10, 2022 at 10:20 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Nay_Sayer - September 8, 2022 at 10:16 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 8, 2022 at 12:26 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2022 at 2:49 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 9, 2022 at 2:54 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2022 at 3:38 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 9, 2022 at 4:02 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 9, 2022 at 4:10 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 9, 2022 at 4:41 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 9, 2022 at 4:03 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 9, 2022 at 5:03 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 9, 2022 at 5:12 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 9, 2022 at 5:18 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 9, 2022 at 5:36 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 9, 2022 at 5:55 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 9, 2022 at 7:27 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 9, 2022 at 5:35 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Ahriman - September 9, 2022 at 5:54 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 9, 2022 at 5:57 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 9, 2022 at 6:11 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2022 at 6:17 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2022 at 6:21 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 9, 2022 at 6:23 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 9, 2022 at 9:25 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 9, 2022 at 9:40 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Foxaèr - September 9, 2022 at 9:42 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 9, 2022 at 9:45 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Foxaèr - September 9, 2022 at 10:16 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Neo-Scholastic - September 9, 2022 at 9:46 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 9, 2022 at 9:48 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by R00tKiT - September 10, 2022 at 9:43 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 10, 2022 at 9:52 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2022 at 10:02 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 10, 2022 at 10:10 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Jehanne - September 10, 2022 at 10:24 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2022 at 10:23 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Angrboda - September 10, 2022 at 10:24 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by The Architect Of Fate - September 10, 2022 at 7:14 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by Jehanne - September 11, 2022 at 2:55 pm
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by LinuxGal - December 29, 2022 at 9:56 am
RE: A knockdown prophecy - by arewethereyet - December 29, 2022 at 10:59 am

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