RE: Atheism's Definition - Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
December 3, 2011 at 11:27 am
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2011 at 11:37 am by lucent.)
(December 3, 2011 at 11:17 am)LastPoet Wrote: You really are dense huh? Atheism only exists as long as a theistic claim exists. Infact, I said it elsewhere that atheism will only end when no one believes in god. YOU make the claim, I reject it due to the lack of meeting the burden of proof.
Atheism will also end when everyone believes in God. Again, it isn't the default position. Since you say it isn't true, you have a burden of proof. It isn't merely a reaction to a position, it is itself a position.
(December 3, 2011 at 11:26 am)Ace Otana Wrote:(December 3, 2011 at 11:21 am)lucent Wrote: False. If he ceases to believe that God exists because he cannot know it to be true, he must also cease to disbelieve it, because he also cannot know it to be untrue.
Atheism is belief that God does not exist. Agnosticism is the belief that we cannot know if God exists or not. They are contradictory beliefs and mutually exclusive.
What the bloody hell is wrong with you?!
I happen to be an agnostic atheist. Atheism and agnostism are not mutually exclusive. You just can't accept the fact that people can reject your bullshit and have no burden of proof.
Theos: Belief in god
Atheos: Without belief in god.
It doesn't get any simpler!
As a former agnostic, I know what agnosticism is. There is no such thing as an agnostic atheist. An agnostic says he doesn't know, which means he neither believes or disbelieves. An atheist says he doesnt believe. They are mutually exclusive. To say you are both is logically absurd. You're actually just an atheist who is intellectually honest enough to say that you couldn't really know, but refuses to take that belief to its logical conclusion and abandon your atheism.
