RE: Dinosaurs Weren't in the Bible...They Never Even Existed.
December 5, 2011 at 10:53 pm
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2011 at 11:20 pm by orogenicman.)
Statler Wrote:Didn’t answer my question, has the process ever been observed to actually happen in Nature?
Yes. And in the laboratory.
Statler Wrote:It’s not my job to back up a negative claim;
If I had made a negative claim, you might, vaguely, have a point.
Statler Wrote:Give me a peer reviewed article that details the observed event of an animal dying, being buried, and then being fossilized in the wild. I don’t want theory and storytelling; I want actual repeatable direct observation of this process actually happening.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.10...h9/summary
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/259/5100/1439.short
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v30...358a0.html
http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/29/2/123.short
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.11...6/abstract
http://www.springerlink.com/content/l1439312747x2krr/
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&...&q&f=false
I can provide you with hundreds more, but I suspect that you know how to use google as well as I do. Now, what direct evidence of fossilization do you believe we don't have?
I have a great idea. Take a class. OR you can take me up on my long-standing offer to take you on a geology field trip. You decide.
Statler Wrote:In fact creationists welcome these observations of speciation and small changes because they help explain the Ark.
OMG!!! EPIC FUCKING FAIL!
Statler Wrote:Depends on what you will accept as evidence.
By all means. Show us the evidence.
Statler Wrote:I believe you exist, but that’s because I am not a hardcore skeptic like you guys all claim to be, if I play the part of the skeptic then I begin to question whether you exist or not.
I believe that there are many hardcore skeptics on this forum who also believe that I exist. This is not rocket science, Statler.
Statler Wrote:1) Well unlike you, I actually work as one, which makes me one by definition.
Sweeping floors in a U.S.D.A extension office doesn't make you a scientist, I'm afraid.
Statler Wrote:3) Actually I have proven I hold to a stricter definition as to what is science and what is not, don’t hate me because I am more of a scientific purist than you are.
Actually, you have demonstrated time and time again that 5th graders have a better grasp of the scientific process than you do. Congratulations.
Statler Wrote:I understand your urge to silence someone you can’t refute, it’s a natural behavior for many people. I don’t believe I have met anyone on here besides myself who qualifies as above, so I think the conversations would be pretty silent on here.
Babble on, Statler. It suits you.
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero
