(May 24, 2023 at 6:08 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Acting as if Fonda speaks for millions doesn't strike me as well-supported.
It's not necessarily that she speaks for millions. But as someone personally who cares just as much about abortion rights, speech rights and gun rights, which is rare in a person I suppose, even though we disagree with Jane, we understand the deep sense of pain she is expressing, and people's initial reaction to what Jane says is a good test. I reckon that non-conservatives will react far differently to Jane's comment than they would a conservative saying "come and take it". That was my point of posting that. I know people's reactions watching that will be far different than watching a conservative say something similar.
Again, Jane's wrong. RBG shot her movement in the foot and refused to retire, causing a lot of AFABs their rights. Obama said codifying Roe was not a priority. The Dems ran Hillary, the worst choice, and laid out the red carpet for Trump to stroll in. I'd say backroom abortions are probably preferable to going around murdering people, or try to leave the state for an abortion, or legit Drs need to put their asses on the line and do these things anyways, against the law. These laws can still be reversed. A moral liberal Supreme Court could come to pass, eventually. But what if it only got more conservative? A lot of republicans would like to further take away AFABs rights. Contraception. Or gay marriage. Or there's even talk about interracial marriage.
