(January 1, 2012 at 11:33 pm)chipan Wrote: yes, but the problem with that is whoever has the better lawyer can get away with the most stuff.I'm not saying the various modern justice systems are perfect
I am saying it's both more just and more moral than the bible's justice and morality.
It's a feat that isn't too difficult to accomplish.
(January 1, 2012 at 11:33 pm)chipan Wrote: i'll acknowledge the Native American slavery as equal to that of black slavery though it was not popular b/c they could not endure as much as the black slaves could. they also died from a lot of European diseases.Are you seriously attempting to argue about whose enslavement was worse than whose?
it's not unique? is there any example of a common form of slavery that had such discrimination as the African American slavery?
What sort of ass backwards arguement is that?
I'll grant you that history isn't my best subject, but I've seen contestants on "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader" with a richer knowledge of history than this.
I'm not trying to make fun of you, but come on. I've even highlighted several times about the subjugation of the Jews by Egypt in the bible previously in my posts.
*IN THE BIBLE* as an example of slaves being treated poorly.
Not to mention that actual historical examples going back thousands of years all through human history. It's one of the oldest human practices.
Slaves didn't suddenly become dehumanized once the new world was found and there's literal butt-loads of literature on the topic both online and off.
(January 1, 2012 at 11:33 pm)chipan Wrote: yes but in the bible if you have sex with someone you must marry them. this is covered under the passage i referanced for rape punishment for virgins who were not betrothed. if they're your wife then they're not your slave and again, if such a thing is done it would be viewed as a very disgraceful thing.Yes and no.
There are some examples of individuals just taking in concubines.
Others just get along with multiple wives.
Wives don't really have that much more freedom than slaves in the bible anyway.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
