RE: Any Evidence For A Historical Jesus?
January 8, 2012 at 1:17 am
(This post was last modified: January 8, 2012 at 1:22 am by Jackalope.)
(January 7, 2012 at 10:09 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote:(January 7, 2012 at 11:06 am)chipan Wrote:Shell B Wrote:My advice, Chip, is to go to the library. A librarian can help you find books on precisely what you want to know.
you know at least Cthulhu Dreaming was willing to admit that i knew what i was talking about i just left one thing out. you don't give me any credit reguardless of how many facts i have on my side. and btw, i read wikipedia about the calibration methods and they say they calibrate them but don't say by how much in what situations and how they deturmine how much they need to calibrate them.
No he didn't, he corrected your misconception, as it was obvious to him that you were wrong and he told you so by his correction
That is precisely what I did. His claim that radiocarbon dating is inaccurate for the reasons given was incorrect, for the reasons given. His description of how C14 dating works was mostly correct, what was incorrect was his claims of inaccuracy - and that fact invalidated his argument. I wouldn't characterize that as me admitting that "he knew what he was talking about". In fact, I would think that it would be clear that I was saying quite the opposite.
As far as providing more information goes, I have serious reservations about doing any of his research for him, and I'm not going to do so. He's been given a starting point and sources for doing his own investigation as to the veracity of what he's been told. Radiocarbon dating is a complex discipline, and the amount of information he appears to be seeking is substantial. It is out there if he cares to look, and he's been given enough information to get it on his own.
That in my view, is far more than someone should expect. If I had a misconception about how something worked, I wouldn't expect a stranger on an internet forum to teach me everything there was to know. If they pointed me to an objective website, or suggested a book to read, that would be sufficient.
But please, if chipan chooses to get poor quality information from christian apologetics websites and declare victory when others won't do his research for him, he's welcome to do so. Chipan, this may come as a surprise to you, but what is passed off as science by apologists is very very wrong in the majority of cases - and the refutations are online and available should you care enough to look. Whether the errors in apologetic "science" are a result of ignorance or intentional distortion is left to an exercise for the reader.
On the other had, if he (or any poster, really) has specific questions that he is earnestly seeking answers to, I'm willing to point them in the right direction. What I'm not willing to do is do research for them or act as as teacher / mentor. While I do understand the material in question, I am not qualified to teach it, and I won't.