(March 2, 2012 at 9:10 am)Rhythm Wrote: Meh, np, just repeating a discussion I'm pretty sure I've already had on these forums (very nearly verbatim). You'll never be able to explain to a believer that free will combined with predestination is a non-starter. They simply can't accept this to be the case because they have pinned their hopes on a god who loves them, and pinned their own sick fantasies on the idea of free will as a means for determining who is damned and who is not. If there is no free will their god is malevolent. If there is free will their god is not omniscient. It isn't exactly surprising that people with very little in the way of knowledge could conceive of such a deity, but it is unthinkable to their minds today, far removed from such a blanket of ignorance except for those moments when they willingly cover their own eyes with the same. They can't decide if they like the idea of a know it all god better than a capricious torturer of a god.
You're absolutely right. It astounds me how much ones desire for something to be true will cause even the most logical of thinkers (as I gather Godschild is based on what he says) to simply turn a blind eye to reason, philosophically or otherwise.