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The Bible: A Moral book?!
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RE: The Bible: A Moral book?!
(August 31, 2009 at 11:06 am)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: I was reading in another thread, where fr0d0 said that he believed the bible is 'the manual for morality'...now I can't believe I'd never thought to ask him if he thought the bible was moral or not before, but now I've come to the topic....

Anyway, nevermind about specifically fr0d0...

How many of us here (mostly theists I'm guessing Tongue) think the bible is somehow a 'moral book'.

Now, I would say that it may have some good parables in it, but it's got a fuckload of immoral bullshit in it too. Mostly from in the Old Testament, but the New Testament isn't perfect.

So to say the bible is a 'moral book' somehow...is to cherry-pick out the good stuff and ignore the horrors...and the picking and choosing we do without the bible. How can one say the bible is a 'moral book'....as mentioned in The God Delusion, someone says to Richard Dawkins something like 'Do you honestly think that if we call looked to The God Delusion instead of the Bible, then the world would be a more humane place?" And I think he rightly responds with 'Yes I do, since you mention 'humane''.

There's a load of horrible shit in the bible, and the good stuff can be picked out. Even with books not about morality, at least there's not horror in there, and there are also other books that are for moral guidence, without all the horrible shit that, I personally would not call moral!

So, the topic is: The Bible, is it really a moral book or 'manual'?

And as I said, I'd personally say "no" and whoever says it is, is just doing some serious cherry-picking.

EvF

As a Gnostic Christian, I see much moral lessons in scriptures. After all, it is basically a consolidation of many of the older religions and their wisdom sayings.

To get the wisdom though, you have to reverse much of what Christians believe.

Said of Gnostic and Christian reading practices.

“Both read the Bible day and night; but you read black where I read white.”
William Blake.

Regards
DL
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The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - August 31, 2009 at 11:06 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by jonathanwithaj - August 31, 2009 at 11:57 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - August 31, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Minimalist - August 31, 2009 at 12:24 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - August 31, 2009 at 12:27 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - August 31, 2009 at 12:57 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - August 31, 2009 at 1:25 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - August 31, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - August 31, 2009 at 2:39 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by genkaus - April 12, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by genkaus - April 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by genkaus - April 12, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - August 31, 2009 at 2:54 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - August 31, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Kyuuketsuki - August 31, 2009 at 7:03 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Eilonnwy - August 31, 2009 at 6:51 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by padraic - August 31, 2009 at 7:54 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - August 31, 2009 at 11:07 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by jonathanwithaj - September 1, 2009 at 12:35 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Demonaura - September 1, 2009 at 3:04 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 3:40 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Kyuuketsuki - September 1, 2009 at 5:15 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 5:39 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Kyuuketsuki - September 3, 2009 at 3:47 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - September 1, 2009 at 5:49 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - September 1, 2009 at 7:27 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 8:27 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - September 1, 2009 at 3:57 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - September 1, 2009 at 5:41 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 5:52 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - September 1, 2009 at 5:55 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - September 1, 2009 at 10:09 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - September 2, 2009 at 2:08 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 2, 2009 at 3:52 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - September 3, 2009 at 4:12 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Minimalist - April 12, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - April 12, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Greatest I am - January 14, 2013 at 8:25 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Drich - April 12, 2012 at 6:47 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Godschild - April 13, 2012 at 12:09 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Greatest I am - April 13, 2012 at 7:25 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 7:38 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by NoMoreFaith - April 12, 2012 at 7:42 pm
The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Thomas Kelly - April 12, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by NoMoreFaith - April 13, 2012 at 7:46 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 8:31 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by genkaus - April 13, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by genkaus - April 13, 2012 at 9:57 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by NoMoreFaith - April 13, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Mystical - January 13, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Drich - January 14, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Mystical - January 14, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Drich - January 14, 2013 at 1:44 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Ryantology - January 14, 2013 at 1:12 am

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