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The Bible: A Moral book?!
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RE: The Bible: A Moral book?!
(April 12, 2012 at 7:24 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(April 12, 2012 at 6:47 pm)Drich Wrote: Sin is anything not in the expressed will of God.We can not live a perfect life (without sin) so that means our best efforts will result in a moral life. Because the Righteous standard of God is found in the bible it is best to derive one's morality from God's perfect standard.
Nice try, but the question is whether the bible is a moral book. If you say righteousness is the express will of God and that that expression takes the form of the bible, then you cannot use the bible itself to demonstrate its own morality. Are you saying that it's righteous because it says it is?

No, he is saying that the Bible is a book of moral standards because they came from the God who is righteous an will judge you by his righteousness. Righteousness is not the will of God, righteousness is who God is. The will of God is that you would live by his righteous standard.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - August 31, 2009 at 11:06 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by jonathanwithaj - August 31, 2009 at 11:57 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - August 31, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Minimalist - August 31, 2009 at 12:24 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - August 31, 2009 at 12:27 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - August 31, 2009 at 12:57 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - August 31, 2009 at 1:25 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - August 31, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - August 31, 2009 at 2:39 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by genkaus - April 12, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by genkaus - April 12, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by genkaus - April 12, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - August 31, 2009 at 2:54 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - August 31, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Kyuuketsuki - August 31, 2009 at 7:03 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Eilonnwy - August 31, 2009 at 6:51 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by padraic - August 31, 2009 at 7:54 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - August 31, 2009 at 11:07 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by jonathanwithaj - September 1, 2009 at 12:35 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Demonaura - September 1, 2009 at 3:04 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 3:40 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Kyuuketsuki - September 1, 2009 at 5:15 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 5:39 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Kyuuketsuki - September 3, 2009 at 3:47 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - September 1, 2009 at 5:49 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - September 1, 2009 at 7:27 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 8:27 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - September 1, 2009 at 3:57 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - September 1, 2009 at 5:41 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 1, 2009 at 5:52 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - September 1, 2009 at 5:55 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Edwardo Piet - September 1, 2009 at 10:09 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - September 2, 2009 at 2:08 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by fr0d0 - September 2, 2009 at 3:52 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - September 3, 2009 at 4:12 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Minimalist - April 12, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Violet - April 12, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Greatest I am - January 14, 2013 at 8:25 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Drich - April 12, 2012 at 6:47 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Godschild - April 13, 2012 at 12:09 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Greatest I am - April 13, 2012 at 7:25 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 7:38 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by NoMoreFaith - April 12, 2012 at 7:42 pm
The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Thomas Kelly - April 12, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by NoMoreFaith - April 13, 2012 at 7:46 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 8:31 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by genkaus - April 13, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by genkaus - April 13, 2012 at 9:57 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by NoMoreFaith - April 13, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Mystical - January 13, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Drich - January 14, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Mystical - January 14, 2013 at 1:23 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Drich - January 14, 2013 at 1:44 am
RE: The Bible: A Moral book?! - by Ryantology - January 14, 2013 at 1:12 am

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