RE: Any Evidence For A Historical Jesus?
April 16, 2012 at 12:06 pm
(This post was last modified: April 16, 2012 at 12:18 pm by DeistPaladin.)
(April 16, 2012 at 10:59 am)Phil Wrote: Suetonius and Pliny the Younger do mention Jesus (if they are authentic and not Christian interpolations) but fact is they are both much to late to distinguish between Christ and Christianity
Seutonius mentions a "Chrestus", not "Christus", in Rome around 49 CE. Not even close. Even apologists are divided on whether or not to even try to put it forward.
Pliny does not mention "Christ" but Christians.
(April 16, 2012 at 10:55 am)King_Charles Wrote: This is a fair point. I would point to examples of people know to have lived who are said to have had "superpowers" mohammed for one, he deffo existed, doesn't mean that an angel came to him or anything like that, nessecarily. Constantine won the battle of Milvian Bridge, but I doubt there was a shining cross in the sky.
I was thinking about some recent examples. There was a "Davy" Crocket but it's unlikely he "killed him a bear when he was only three" as the song goes. Washington existed but the cherry tree story was fiction. It's not hard to see how a real character can be embellished with folklore, and these examples aren't even religious icons.
The Bible is also filled with hyperbole and exaggeration. King David supposedly had a vast empire that stretched from the Sinai to the Euphrates. He commanded an army that was roughly five times the size of the combined Roman legions at their height. No evidence for such an empire exists. The Jewish population in Egypt at the time of Moses had supposedly grown from 70 to 1.6 million in just four generations, a figure which only makes sense if every one of their females was constantly pregnant with twins. No evidence for them or their trek through the desert. It would be no surprise to me if the same source had a tiny splinter faction of Judaism as a famous and controversial ministry.
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