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What's not to love?
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RE: What's not to love?
(April 25, 2012 at 6:10 pm)deciple Wrote: ....
Hmm? "thought crimes" not so much. What he said was "if you look at a woman to lust after her, you have commited adultery with her already in your heart" He didnt say you cant admire the beauty of a woman. What he meant by that was, we shoulnt look at a woman and think... "man, id like to fuck that, and i think im gonna try" He knew that thoughts lead to actions. Im not a woman but im pretty sure they dont want to be objectified as sex objects anyway. I dont see where there should be a problem with this.

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This isn't directly related to the conversation at hand but anyways...

The verse you're referencing, Matt 5:28, probably wasn't originally meant to be taken as being against "lusting." The word translated "lust" really means "desire" or "covet" and it's used in a positive light in the NT several times. The word translated "woman" in Greek I'm told can mean either woman or wife. If it's used in the context of marriage, it means wife, not woman. Well guess what. Adultery in the biblical sense always means specifically sex with another man's wife, not simply fornication. The verse probably should be read something like "But I tell you that anyone who looks at another man's wife with desire has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Otherwise, if it meant "any woman" that would include your own wife, and the entire book of Songs would be sin. There's even an early church father who interpreted this verse as being against coveting a man's wife (not "lusting" at women in general).

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What's not to love? - by radorth - April 24, 2012 at 1:17 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 24, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Erinome - April 24, 2012 at 2:50 am
RE: What's not to love? - by NoMoreFaith - April 24, 2012 at 4:52 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 24, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by FallentoReason - April 24, 2012 at 5:20 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 24, 2012 at 9:57 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Zen Badger - April 24, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - April 25, 2012 at 10:40 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Welsh cake - April 24, 2012 at 6:29 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - April 24, 2012 at 2:38 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - April 24, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Killman - April 25, 2012 at 5:30 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Faith No More - April 24, 2012 at 7:44 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Phil - April 24, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - April 24, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by jess_essential - April 24, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 25, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 24, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Welsh cake - April 24, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Zen Badger - April 25, 2012 at 12:18 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 26, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 26, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 25, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Kayenneh - April 25, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Disciple - April 25, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 25, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Disciple - April 26, 2012 at 11:45 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 27, 2012 at 1:20 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Cinjin - April 27, 2012 at 1:51 am
RE: What's not to love? - by downbeatplumb - April 27, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 27, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Paul the Human - April 25, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 25, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 25, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 26, 2012 at 12:45 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 26, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 26, 2012 at 9:24 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 2:15 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 26, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 26, 2012 at 10:57 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Kayenneh - April 26, 2012 at 2:32 am
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - April 26, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 9:29 am
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 9:43 am
RE: What's not to love? - by FallentoReason - April 26, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 11:41 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 27, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2012 at 7:15 am
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - April 27, 2012 at 10:22 am
RE: What's not to love? - by kılıç_mehmet - April 26, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - April 26, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by jess_essential - April 26, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by jess_essential - April 26, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Faith No More - April 26, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Welsh cake - April 26, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by AthiestAtheist - April 26, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - April 26, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by AthiestAtheist - April 26, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - April 27, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by AthiestAtheist - April 28, 2012 at 9:23 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - April 29, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: What's not to love? - by AthiestAtheist - April 29, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Mister Agenda - May 1, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Cinjin - April 26, 2012 at 9:17 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Faith No More - April 27, 2012 at 6:58 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 27, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Faith No More - April 27, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 28, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - May 1, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Mister Agenda - May 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Jaysyn - May 1, 2012 at 2:38 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - May 1, 2012 at 6:03 pm
What's not to love? - by Zen Badger - April 28, 2012 at 12:41 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Welsh cake - April 28, 2012 at 3:22 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Cyberman - April 29, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by downbeatplumb - April 30, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by jess_essential - May 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - May 1, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Engel - May 2, 2012 at 12:13 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - May 2, 2012 at 1:15 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Engel - May 2, 2012 at 1:28 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - May 2, 2012 at 3:30 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Jaysyn - May 2, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: What's not to love? - by AthiestAtheist - May 2, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - May 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - May 2, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Engel - May 2, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - May 2, 2012 at 7:09 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Paul the Human - May 2, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by padraic - May 2, 2012 at 7:40 pm

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