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What's not to love?
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RE: What's not to love?
deciple Wrote:Many people make the mistake of thinking christians follow jesus out of fear. We do not.
Back in the day I used to think the same way. Apparently we're both wrong.



radorth Wrote:
FallentoReason Wrote:I don't believe not because it doesn't appeal to me or because I don't 'love' something in it. It's because as a free thinker I can't honestly say I believe it and keep a straight face. There's flaws that stop me from rationally being able to believe in Jesus.
"Free thinker" rarely equals rational. "False in one part, so false in all" is a logical fallacy. Jefferson understood this when he praised Jesus so highly while saying the miracles must have been made up. That IMO is the mark of a freethinker, if a picky one. He throws out what he thinks is bathwater, but keeps the Baby
Sorry for the late reply. Didn't see this.

From wikipedia:
Freethought is a philosophical viewpoint that holds opinions should be formed on the basis of science, logic, and reason, and should not be influenced by authority, tradition, or other dogmas. The cognitive application of freethought is known as "freethinking," and practitioners of freethought are known as "freethinkers."

So as I said, I can't believe in Jesus because the NT is flawed in many ways and misleading in others. One example is the Church tradition that gave the names to the Gospels. I don't have anything that logically shows me they (Mark, Matthew, Luke and John) in fact wrote those manuscripts therefore I cannot begin to believe in Jesus because there's no reason to think I'm reading the words of witnesses.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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What's not to love? - by radorth - April 24, 2012 at 1:17 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 24, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Erinome - April 24, 2012 at 2:50 am
RE: What's not to love? - by NoMoreFaith - April 24, 2012 at 4:52 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 24, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by FallentoReason - April 24, 2012 at 5:20 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 24, 2012 at 9:57 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Zen Badger - April 24, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - April 25, 2012 at 10:40 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Welsh cake - April 24, 2012 at 6:29 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - April 24, 2012 at 2:38 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - April 24, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Killman - April 25, 2012 at 5:30 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Faith No More - April 24, 2012 at 7:44 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Phil - April 24, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - April 24, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by jess_essential - April 24, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 25, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 24, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Welsh cake - April 24, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Zen Badger - April 25, 2012 at 12:18 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 26, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 26, 2012 at 12:41 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 25, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Kayenneh - April 25, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Disciple - April 25, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 25, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Disciple - April 26, 2012 at 11:45 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 27, 2012 at 1:20 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Cinjin - April 27, 2012 at 1:51 am
RE: What's not to love? - by downbeatplumb - April 27, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 27, 2012 at 10:39 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Paul the Human - April 25, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 25, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 25, 2012 at 8:32 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 26, 2012 at 12:45 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 26, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 26, 2012 at 9:24 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 2:15 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 26, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 26, 2012 at 10:57 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Kayenneh - April 26, 2012 at 2:32 am
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - April 26, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 9:29 am
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 9:43 am
RE: What's not to love? - by FallentoReason - April 26, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 11:41 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 27, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2012 at 7:15 am
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - April 27, 2012 at 10:22 am
RE: What's not to love? - by kılıç_mehmet - April 26, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - April 26, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by jess_essential - April 26, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by jess_essential - April 26, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Anyse - April 26, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Faith No More - April 26, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - April 26, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Welsh cake - April 26, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by AthiestAtheist - April 26, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - April 26, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by AthiestAtheist - April 26, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - April 27, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by AthiestAtheist - April 28, 2012 at 9:23 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - April 29, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: What's not to love? - by AthiestAtheist - April 29, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Mister Agenda - May 1, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Cinjin - April 26, 2012 at 9:17 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 26, 2012 at 9:21 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Faith No More - April 27, 2012 at 6:58 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - April 27, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Faith No More - April 27, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Minimalist - April 28, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: What's not to love? - by radorth - May 1, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Mister Agenda - May 1, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Jaysyn - May 1, 2012 at 2:38 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - May 1, 2012 at 6:03 pm
What's not to love? - by Zen Badger - April 28, 2012 at 12:41 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Welsh cake - April 28, 2012 at 3:22 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Cyberman - April 29, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by downbeatplumb - April 30, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by jess_essential - May 1, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - May 1, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Engel - May 2, 2012 at 12:13 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - May 2, 2012 at 1:15 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Engel - May 2, 2012 at 1:28 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - May 2, 2012 at 3:30 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Jaysyn - May 2, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: What's not to love? - by AthiestAtheist - May 2, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by Godschild - May 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by The Grand Nudger - May 2, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Engel - May 2, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: What's not to love? - by DeistPaladin - May 2, 2012 at 7:09 am
RE: What's not to love? - by Paul the Human - May 2, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: What's not to love? - by padraic - May 2, 2012 at 7:40 pm

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