Same sex marriage

[Gooders1002]

Gay couples already have equal rights in law regarding same sex relationships in the UK, why do they feel the need for it to be called marriage? This isn't about equality it's about redefining the current definition of marriage.

For anyone who doesn't want to traipse through the whole thread, StatCrux would like you to believe this wasn't dismissed already.

We were discussing this back at page 9 and 10 onwards regarding definition, and there has been no satisfactory answer to the charge that Christians redefined marriage themselves, and therefore hypocritical to object to further redefinition to fit with the current zeitgeist.

Rome, China, Greece all had provisions for same sex marriage, so it is hardly a complete redefinition, rather a desperate attempt to maintain the status quo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage#Same-sex_marriage

Another point you never addressed StatCrux, is that who has the right to define marriage anyway?

Is it the church?

The state church of the UK, the target of this thread, is the Church of England, and regardless of your views on that church, you have to admit, that IF the church should have a say in what marriage is.. then it is the STATE church of the country where the law is being proposed.

Church of England are pro-samesex marriage.

So aren't you trying to enforce your religious views, on a society that does not accept your Orthodoxy?

The issue at hand regardless, is that gay couples cannot get married in their own churches whom are happy to perform the ceremony.
So you also want your church to have a say in what OTHER churches do.
The proposals were quite explicit in stating that a church would not be forced to perform them.

SummerQueen also had the superb idea of removing the legal status of Marriage, and making all unions civil unions.
You can get married in a church if you like, but it conveys no legal rights unless a separate secular process is followed to create a contract between parties granting rights.

That way, everyone is equal, and your little dark age philosophy is not impinged upon.

What this REALLY comes down to, is that StatCrux believes the Orthodox church should have a greater power to influence policy, than any other religious institution.

In the words of Paul the Alien: 'Thats jenger'