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Pink is quite fashionable.
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RE: Pink is quite fashionable.
(June 1, 2012 at 6:59 pm)Hovik Wrote:
(June 1, 2012 at 6:47 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: It implicates no such thing and yeah, I am seriously going to argue that with you. Why make the point? Why make the point "This is the hottest day we've had in months"?
Why make the point "Thats the most dramatic novel I've ever read"? Are you being serious? Why the hell should I conform to the way you interpret stuff? Suffice to say it was said without negative commentations.
This is a ridiculous attempt at mud slinging and I'm not going to take it.
Fuck you man, thats messed up.

"Implicate" and "imply" are not the same thing.

"This is the hottest day we've had in months" is a meaningful sentence in the context of it being hot outside. If it's cold outside, and someone were to utter this, it would be construed as having meaning other than the basic meaning, i.e. pragmatic meaning. For example, it could be construed with sarcasm. This is an implicature.

Saying "That's the gayest thing I've ever read" does not have any value in a neutral sense. Why would you say it if you didn't mean to implicate something about being gay or gay things? No, what happened here is you used a word that carries with it a lot of social stigma and historical baggage as though it had something to do with the particular characteristics with which you associated it.

I could literally watch two men having sex and say "that's gay," and I would be factually correct. That would be a neutral statement.

On the other side of the coin, I could see a man hug his best friend and say "that's gay" and be factually incorrect; however, the implicature that statement would engender in that context would be something to the effect of "being gay is noteworthy" or "being gay is abnormal such that I feel the need to comment on it."

At the very least, your statement implies that there are certain things (like colors or behaviors outside of homosexuality) that can be classified as "gay," and they are these very stereotypes we need to destroy by not associating them with the word "gay."

I'm not slinging mud; I'm simply trying to defeat the misuse of a word that doesn't need to have anymore inappropriate and irrelevant associations.

Tell you what, you go read the statement I refered to. Read it carefuly. If you don't instantly think "Wow, that sounds suspiciously like he got covered in seamen all day." and you don't consider that to be a gay act without any prejudice against gay people I'll go buy you a dictionary and a fucking cookie. Its midnight and I've got better shit to do than argue with someone who obviously wanted to take the oppurtunity to be a self-rightious ass.
We're done here, period.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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Pink is quite fashionable. - by Annik - June 1, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Jackalope - June 1, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by frankiej - June 1, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Annik - June 1, 2012 at 3:11 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by kılıç_mehmet - June 1, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Annik - June 1, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by kılıç_mehmet - June 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Annik - June 1, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Annik - June 1, 2012 at 6:02 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Annik - June 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 6:08 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Hovik - June 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Hovik - June 1, 2012 at 6:21 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Hovik - June 1, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 6:47 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Hovik - June 1, 2012 at 6:59 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 7:06 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Hovik - June 1, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Tiberius - June 2, 2012 at 11:58 am
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Hovik - June 2, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Whateverist - June 2, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Hovik - June 1, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Shell B - June 1, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Napoléon - June 1, 2012 at 3:16 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by frankiej - June 1, 2012 at 3:16 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Violet - June 1, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Faith No More - June 1, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by frankiej - June 1, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Faith No More - June 1, 2012 at 4:37 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by frankiej - June 1, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Cyberman - June 1, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Annik - June 1, 2012 at 5:15 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Tiberius - June 1, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Cyberman - June 1, 2012 at 7:07 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Cyberman - June 1, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Annik - June 1, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Cyberman - June 1, 2012 at 6:08 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Annik - June 1, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Erinome - June 1, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Erinome - June 1, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by kılıç_mehmet - June 1, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Autumnlicious - June 1, 2012 at 7:06 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Shell B - June 1, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by kılıç_mehmet - June 1, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Shell B - June 1, 2012 at 7:18 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by kılıç_mehmet - June 1, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Epimethean - June 1, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by jackman - June 1, 2012 at 8:57 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 9:00 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Erinome - June 1, 2012 at 9:11 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 9:12 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by jackman - June 1, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Shell B - June 1, 2012 at 9:17 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 9:18 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Shell B - June 1, 2012 at 9:22 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 9:23 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Shell B - June 1, 2012 at 9:27 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by jackman - June 1, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Shell B - June 1, 2012 at 9:43 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by jackman - June 1, 2012 at 9:45 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Shell B - June 1, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by jackman - June 1, 2012 at 9:54 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Shell B - June 1, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Gambit - June 1, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 10:05 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Violet - June 2, 2012 at 4:48 am
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Shell B - June 1, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Cyberman - June 1, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by jackman - June 1, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 1, 2012 at 10:10 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Faith No More - June 1, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Angrboda - June 1, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by kılıç_mehmet - June 2, 2012 at 5:27 am
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Napoléon - June 2, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 2, 2012 at 9:34 am
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Violet - June 2, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 2, 2012 at 1:33 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by kılıç_mehmet - June 2, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Annik - June 2, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 2, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Hovik - June 2, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Whateverist - June 2, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Angrboda - June 3, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Whateverist - June 4, 2012 at 1:24 am
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Angrboda - June 4, 2012 at 2:15 am
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Violet - June 2, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 2, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Violet - June 2, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 2, 2012 at 2:05 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Autumnlicious - June 2, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Reforged - June 2, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Cyberman - June 3, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Pink is quite fashionable. - by Gambit - June 4, 2012 at 4:38 am

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