RE: Do atheists need some faith?
July 19, 2012 at 3:28 am
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2012 at 3:29 am by Selliedjoup.)
(July 18, 2012 at 11:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: [quote='Selliedjoup' pid='312147' dateline='1342668552']
By requiring material evidence to assess whether a god exists they have assumed it to be true, not possible.
Quote:This is not true necessarily. It's more like, assuming the material world is real, it can explain life, through this and that all the way to evolution. Since the material world hypothesis is supported by evidence, and there is nothing to falsify it, it's a reasonable theory. There is no evidence to suggest that it's false, therefore there is no reason to assume there must be a Creator.
At if physical evidence proves a Creator, it doesn't prove God.
I can't see any reason to make the statement that there musn't be a creaotr, or that there is good reason to consider an creator unlikely. Using the matierialist view, the only way you could say a creator existed was if it physically existed within our universe, which would be virtually a redundant statement.
I assume the material world is real, as I'm unable to tell otherwise. On that basis I assume the material world is real, but see no reason to assume that if a creator exists it must be present within that which it's created, therefore, why would I use the material world to assess a creator's existence. Why do you think that you must assess the material world to determine it?
Quote: I have no idea how we could assess whether a god was 'worthy' of worship, unless it came down and instructed me to worship it.
Quote:Why would you believe in this god that came down though? What if it was lying?
How would I know it was lying?
Quote:What about people whom this god never came down and instructed them to worship it?
Your statement seems to imply it does exist, so it makes sense that they feel a sense of gratitude.